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Offline J.Glenoban

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« 2011-Aug-09, 04:14 PM Reply #100 »
THE dream of Australian Turf Club chairman John Cornish of high-rise development along the High St side of Randwick racecourse to provide funding for the racing industry is over.

It was skittled by Racing Minister George Souris in a press release last Tuesday when announcing amendments to legislation regarding the appointment of new trustees for the track.

In part Souris said: ‘‘ The amendments will provide an appropriate level of control over any future commercial uses of the lands to ensure they be used principally as a racecourse.’’

Bang, there go the plans in one swoop. Can you blame the minister? Seriously, who thought a state government, whether it be Labor or Liberal, was ever going to allow high-rise development on Crown land?

What would have come next? Perhaps approval for the Sydney Cricket Ground Trust to develop blocks of flats on Moore Park or approval for a shopping centre in Centennial Park? CORNISH is in a difficult period of his tenure as, whether he believes it or not, there is discontent among members, particularly those on the Sydney Turf Club side of the merger.

The thinking seems to be that part of the committee is worried about the building of the two new stands at Royal Randwick and nothing else.

The building of the new stands should be easy. Kevin Greene, the previous Labor sports minister, made available funds of $150 million so that is the hard part over.

One committeeman can be put in charge of the building while the chairman and the rest of the committee get moving on more pressing issues.

What is being done to arrest the decline of bookmakers and attendances at the track, what is the business plan to maintain prizemoney if racing loses its upcoming High Court case against the corporate bookies, where does the club stand on the pressing issue of TV rights?

The word from Macquarie St is the minister is pushing to have his Hunter Valley mate John Messara join the committee.

Souris needs to be careful that his job is to regulate racing not to run it, but, in the present climate, co-opting Messara might not be a bad thing, particularly if rumours are correct Mark McInnes is finding it hard to juggle his time on the committee with the pressures of running Solomon Lew’s Premier Retail group in this trying time for the shopping industry.

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« 2011-Aug-09, 11:25 PM Reply #101 »
thanks J.Glenoban very muchly appreciated.

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« 2011-Aug-10, 07:07 AM Reply #102 »
Gin just because I said "racetracks" I never said "Course Proper" you are taking things far too literally and putting your own interpretation on them, you wouldn't need any thing but the Course Proper, the land along the High street side of Randwick that Stables all the on course trainers would be worth a fortune(I realise the Government owns the land but I am sure a deal could be worked out to allow a large portion of it to go into a dedicated training complex) most tracks with on course stabling at least in part could be turned into Unit Blocks and on sold, land within that sort of proximity to the City would be worth a premium

You have a hard time winning an argument with facts or your own opinion, you have to try to say that I said things that I never even inferred, like selling Racetracks, where did you ever get such a Bloody stupid Idea?? it certainly wasn't from me

Did you read Racenet recently re the Randwick Track?? do you still think nothing has changed??



I just love how you change mid stream  :rolleyes:



What they should do is stop all trainers from training at all the City tracks and build a purpose built training complex away from the city so all trainers would have similar facilities(the best in the world) and they would save a fortune in maintaining 3 different training centres in the City and you could even throw in Hawkesbury, put all that money into one complex instead of 4, Randwick/Warwick Farm/Rosehill trainers are not going to like it but they are just being selfish and letting self interest control what they know is best for racing in the long run and best for the industry over all,
Racetracks should be for racing only and they shouldn't incorporate training with Racetracks

Same could/should be done in all the major Capital cities saving 100's of 1000's if not $millions in maintenance,  not to mention the return from City land sales could be quite substantial

Just what were you infering then Jim as you seem to change tact like the wind  :rolleyes:

btw - what would you put on the land at Hawkesbury? Unit block?   :lol:  talk about piss & wind  :shutup:

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« 2011-Aug-10, 07:29 AM Reply #103 »
now now gt don't be nasty to jim as you know he might not allways be right but he's never wrong.

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« 2011-Aug-10, 05:11 PM Reply #104 »
Christ Gin you are as Dumb as a Post, quote me where I mentioned selling land at Hawkesbury or shut your stupid mouth!!

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« 2011-Aug-10, 05:13 PM Reply #105 »
Gin you and DD are always misquoting to try to make your point, I have no trouble with anyone thinking I am wrong and having a different view but do it with your own words, don't say I said thing that I didn't say!!

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« 2011-Aug-10, 08:17 PM Reply #106 »
What they should do is stop all trainers from training at all the City tracks and build a purpose built training complex away from the city so all trainers would have similar facilities(the best in the world) and they would save a fortune in maintaining 3 different training centres in the City and you could even throw in Hawkesbury, put all that money into one complex instead of 4, Randwick/Warwick Farm/Rosehill trainers are not going to like it but they are just being selfish and letting self interest control what they know is best for racing in the long run and best for the industry over all,
Racetracks should be for racing only and they shouldn't incorporate training with Racetracks

Same could/should be done in all the major Capital cities saving 100's of 1000's if not $millions in maintenance, not to mention the return from City land sales could be quite substantial

You do realise the above are your words Jim, so how am I misquoting you :what:


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« 2011-Aug-10, 08:22 PM Reply #107 »
Oh just stop pickin on every little thing the bloke says you sad arse.

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« 2011-Aug-12, 11:52 AM Reply #108 »
Happy Birthday, Lee!      :beer:

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« 2011-Nov-23, 09:33 PM Reply #109 »
Does anyone what is happening with Lucas Cranach? He might turn out to be a good middle distance horse for the Freedmans if he stays here.

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« 2011-Nov-24, 08:47 AM Reply #110 »
Does anyone what is happening with Lucas Cranach? He might turn out to be a good middle distance horse for the Freedmans if he stays here.

He`s staying coz he`s owned by a mob called Australian Bloodstock which was started and is managed by a couple of blokes from Newcastle.One is Jamie Lovett not sure of the other blokes name.

Interviewed in the local rag after the cup they weren`t sure which races they were going to target next prep.

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« 2011-Nov-24, 06:29 PM Reply #111 »
He`s staying coz he`s owned by a mob called Australian Bloodstock which was started and is managed by a couple of blokes from Newcastle.One is Jamie Lovett not sure of the other blokes name.

Interviewed in the local rag after the cup they weren`t sure which races they were going to target next prep.

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« 2011-Nov-25, 09:50 AM Reply #112 »
He'd be looking at either Aust Cup or BMW at a guess.

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« 2015-Jan-11, 03:04 PM Reply #113 »
Ivanhowe beating sea the moon

Ivanhowe: has joined Lee and Anthony Freedman in Australia

 PICTU Frank Sorge

German star Ivanhowe heads to Australia

IVANHOWE, the horse who deprived Sea The Moon of his unbeaten record when landing the Grosser Preis von Baden last September, has been sold to race in Australia.

Racebets quote the five-year-old son of Soldier Hollow at 25-1 to succeed compatriot Protectionist on the Melbourne Cup roll of honour after he was purchased for a group of owners headed by John O'Neill and Rupert Leigh to join the stable of brothers Lee and Anthony Freedman.

O'Neill told racingnetwork.com.au: "He could be a Cox Plate or Cups horse in the spring. Lee and Anthony will get a better handle on him when he arrives."

Ivanhowe added a second Group 1 victory in November in the Grosser Preis von Bayern to go alongside his Baden-Baden success when trained by Jean-Pierre Carvalho for Baron Georg von Ullman's Gestut Schlenderhan.

His international forays proved less successful, as he finished 18th from a wide draw behind Treve in the Arc before a sixth-placed effort in the Japan Cup.

Ivanhowe still has relatively few miles on the clock having missed the second half of his three-year-old season after disappointing when favourite for the 2013 Deutches Derby.

Lee Freedman's five victories in the Melbourne Cup included the second and third wins of the legendary Makybe Diva.

The Freedmans are also set to welcome the former Andy Oliver-trained Tom Melbourne, a close relation to 2013 Cup winner Fiorente, who was recently bought by OTI Racing.


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« 2016-Jun-28, 12:01 PM Reply #114 »
Freedman Brothers have lost Malaguerra. Owners have taken horse to who knows where.

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« 2016-Jun-28, 01:04 PM Reply #115 »
Freedman Brothers have lost Malaguerra. Owners have taken horse to who knows where.
Peter Gelagotis is the new trainer .....no reason why it has been taken off Lee but the horse bloomed with the Freedies won 9 or 10 races ...if this guy doers half as good I'll be surprised,..
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« 2016-Jun-28, 02:07 PM Reply #116 »
Can't help wondering but  hope  the reason is not the Freedman's failure to deliver The Stradbroke to the owner.
When Malaguerra won during the spring carnival I can remember Lee stating he was an ideal Stradbroke horse, and would get in with a light weight.
Some-one wagered plenty on him in the early markets but after he won The BTC Cup,  he ended up 3rd top weight.
 Always wondered if The BTC Cup was ever part of the plan, there did not seem to be a lot of confidence in him that day.

Anyway owners prerogative but I'm disappointed.

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« 2016-Jun-29, 05:00 PM Reply #117 »
Reported the owner had issues with the lack of communication between the trainer & himself.

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« 2016-Jun-29, 05:51 PM Reply #118 »
Just listened to the owner's explanation on RSN. Hardly convincing.
Fourth trainer for the five year old horse probably says more.
Pressure goes on to the Gelagotis boys a bit though because you would not want to see The Cleaner resume with a bad run.
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« 2016-Jun-29, 06:34 PM Reply #119 »
Failure to communicate according to the owner is the reason behind the stable change as reported by Punters.com.......you would think Freedman would be very effective in maintaining contact with his owners...not according to Bruno.

 https://www.punters.com.au/news/Malaguerra-owner-explains-Freedman-sacking_147918/



Freedman hits back at Malaguerra owner

Brent Zerafa@brentzerafa

30 June, 2016
Lee Freedman has taken offence to suggestions his stable has poor communication in the wake of the Malaguerra fiasco that has come to the boil this week.

Bruno Micalizzi, the owner of Malaguerra, made such claims on Racing.com’s Racing Ahead on RSN 927 on Wednesday, suggesting a lack of contact as the reason the Group 1-winning sprinter has been shifted to the Peter Gelagotis stable.

But Freedman refuted Micalizzi’s comments and highlighted that Malaguerra improved from a benchmark of 64 to 108 under the care of his brother Anthony and himself.

“Freedman Racing was not going to offer any comment on the removal of Malaguerra from our stable but some commentary in the media has inflamed the ugly side of social media and engendered some wild misconceptions,” he said.

“We defend our high standards of training and communication and totally refute any claims otherwise.

“Whilst our standards are high the very occasional lapse would be no different in any business.”

While acknowledging there have been many to sink the boot in over the past two days, Freedman indicated he has also received plenty of messages of support.

“I would like to thank our legion of loyal owners, big and small, who have phoned or emailed with messages of support. We are very grateful for that,” he said.

“We are proud of our achievement taking Malaguerra from a BM64 horse to a 108-rater and we acknowledge the work of our staff in helping achieve this.

“We wish Mr Micalizzi good fortune with Malaguerra in the future.”


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« 2017-Jun-01, 08:20 PM Reply #120 »
Lee likely to shift to Singapore taking over from Laurie Laxon who is returning to his former homeland NZ,,,interesting looking back in time to when Lee first started in 1983 and subsequent moves..he's been an everywhere man.



https://www.racing.com/news/2017-06-01/freedman-off-to-singapore


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