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Online Bubbasmith

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« 2019-Feb-10, 09:33 PM Reply #225 »
You've answered your own question.

Why try to control so many bowlers instead of a simple manoeuvre overseas!

It wouldn't surprise me if such bets go through commission agents who love the Citibet set up.

Certainly saves heaps on POCT.
If DW had placed bets into the Phillipines, he would have to place bets on the internet or by phone, if that was the case he would have left a forensic trail, no he would not be that stupid, he would use bowlers, then again why would he have any need to bet on his horses as he was getting 10 % of prizemoney ( $300+ million over the last 10 years ) His training fees would cover all his other overheads of wages, fodder, insurance etc. I doubt that he even bothered to bet he most likely received slings from punters within his inner circle of owners and other hangerons.
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« 2019-Feb-12, 02:29 PM Reply #226 »
Lots of big global outfits depend on the Internet for secure communications that does not leave a forensic trail.

It's merely software so there's no reason big racing outfits can't also use such techniques to transact with Citibet.

Now if Weir is collecting so big a swag out of prizemoney that he doesn't need to bother to bet, a lot of his staff will not be sharing in that wealth and the informed ones from those could well have no hesitation in punting that knowledge.



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« 2019-Feb-12, 06:04 PM Reply #227 »

Betting  profiteering? -- another dimension all together


Darren Weir routinely has his 'face of integrity' openly displayed on national broadcast media.

The overwhelming impression is of a simply-smart, plain speaking guy unlikely to have been involved in misbehaviour.

That impression should not lightly be dismissed.

Apparently the use of 'jiggers' is both commonplace and 'next to useless' -- and it is hardly likely that any discomfort to the jigged horses is of great moment.

..............so found out, DW has walked -- as did RSmerdon........... and another just left in disgust while some were technically 'clean'...... and DNikolic was given life for being disrespectful.

The whole RVL saga is a bit of a mess.

There is more to this story -- however primitive a jigger may be in the technology options now open to trainers the idea that it is 'cruel' as distinct from 'occasionally effective' is yet to be established.

Back in the 50s and 60s it was common for kids to have micro  'shocking devices' used as tricks on each other and adults -- momentarily arresting but not of major consequence.


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« 2019-Feb-12, 06:18 PM Reply #228 »


Darren Weir routinely has his 'face of integrity' openly displayed on national broadcast media.

The overwhelming impression is of a simply-smart, plain speaking guy unlikely to have been involved in misbehaviour.

That impression should not lightly be dismissed.

Well, there we have Mair defending another cheat.

Peter, what corrupt behaviour are you hiding in your past that makes you feel obligated to defend every grub in this industry  :bulb:
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Offline Jeunes

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« 2019-Feb-12, 06:23 PM Reply #229 »
Peter, just answer one question, I have asked before. What is the sentence Weir should have received?

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« 2019-Feb-12, 07:07 PM Reply #230 »


...... a fair hearing would be a good start............ not being on the menu, he walked

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« 2019-Feb-12, 07:10 PM Reply #231 »


RVL opens Pandoras Box

The challenge for RVL is to now work through the Weir stable staff and jockeys engaged to find those that were 'involved' in the commission of yet to be revealed offences.


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« 2019-Feb-13, 07:46 AM Reply #232 »
Peter, maybe we should get him on Q and A so Tony Jones and an invited Greens politician could get to the bottom of it.  :lol:

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« 2019-Feb-13, 12:01 PM Reply #234 »
Table of where the Weir horses have gone.

https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/racing/files/weir-horses

Maher/Eustace got 29 horses. Next best was Mick Price with 26 horses.

15 going to Waller. Verry Elleegant among them (hope they change the name).

Kris Lees only got 5 but he got Brave Smash, Big Duke and Red Cardinal.

None for Gai.

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Feb-19, 05:12 PM Reply #235 »


This cannot be over?

Has RVL made a public statement on the need to run to ground others involved in the offences for which DW was charged?

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« 2019-Feb-20, 06:39 AM Reply #236 »
Peter
What are your thoughts on Darren’s record in regards to breaking the rules.?

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« 2019-Feb-20, 08:38 AM Reply #237 »
All horses should be interviewed by police.
If they will not speak up, then ban them.

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« 2019-Feb-20, 10:21 AM Reply #238 »
Horses were interviewed . .

All said "Nay!"

Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2019-Feb-20, 10:34 AM Reply #239 »
You misheard, Arthur

They all said "Neigh"

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« 2019-Feb-20, 10:40 AM Reply #240 »
What did Mr Ed say?

Fours

Offline Jeunes

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« 2019-Feb-20, 11:52 AM Reply #241 »
Wilbur.

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2019-Feb-20, 07:47 PM Reply #242 »

Apparently RVL has no credibility in its concerns for overall integrity

..................disturbingly nonchalant responses ...... but predictable enough......... once someone takes the fall, the co-offenders are not pursued.

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« 2019-Feb-21, 10:57 AM Reply #243 »
Police continue Weir investigation
 
Racing.com Staff@Racing
11:07am

Victoria Police are continuing their investigations into disqualified trainer Darren Weir as former stable foreman Jarrod McLean attempts to take over Weir's Warrnambool stables.

The Herald Sun reported on Thursday that officers from Victoria Police's Sporting Integrity Intelligence Unit searched a house belonging to an associate of Weir's former stable foreman Jarrod McLean on Tuesday.

The Herald Sun wrote that the house 'is occupied by a person well known in country racing circles and believed to be licensed by Racing Victoria'.

It comes after the Warrnambool Standard reported that McLean is keen to occupy stables formerly used by Weir at Warrnambool racecourse.

McLean oversaw Weir's Warrnambool complex as foreman. The complex has capacity to stable 43 horses.

McLean is yet to appear before the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board to contest four charges laid by Racing Victoria stewards following raids of Weir's stables at Ballarat and Warrnambool last month.

The charges, listed below, will be heard before the RAD Board on a date yet to be determined.

Charge 1 - AR 175(hh)(ii) Possession of an electric or electronic apparatus capable of affecting the performance of a horse

The summary of the particulars of the charge being that, on or about 30 January 2019, Mr McLean was in the possession at a Yangery property of an electric or electronic apparatus designed to deliver an electric shock.

Charge 2 - AR 175(f) Failure to give evidence at an inquiry
The summary of the particulars being that during the course of an inquiry at the RV offices on 31 January 2019, Mr McLean refused and/or failed to give evidence in accordance with a direction and/or request of the stewards.

Charge 3 - AR175(p) Failure to comply with a direction of the stewards (Alternative to Charge 2)
The summary of the particulars being that Mr McLean refused and/or failed to comply with a direction of the stewards on 31 January 2019 to answer questions in relation to an inquiry.

Charge 4 - AR175A Conduct prejudicial to the image, interests or welfare of racing
The summary of the particulars being that Mr McLean's conduct in possessing an electric or electronic apparatus, which has been widely reported in the media, and his failure to proffer an explanation to the stewards was prejudicial to the image, interests or welfare of racing.
ENDS


Giddy Up :beer:


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« 2019-Feb-23, 05:16 PM Reply #244 »
Did anyone notice that the trifecta in the Parramatta Cup today were all ex Weir horses?

Paid $3,352.30!!


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