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Offline Jeunes

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« 2019-Apr-15, 12:12 AM Reply #250 »
I don't ever remember Manuel being with Weir?  :shy:

Thanks G. You are right. I mixed it up with another horse. I modified my original post too.

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« 2019-Apr-15, 07:29 PM Reply #251 »
Police hunt for secret phones, SIMs in raid on Darren Weir’s property
Leo Schlink and Mark Buttler, Herald Sun
April 14, 2019 9:51pm
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Police are investigating whether suspects in the Darren Weir racing corruption probe used a secret communications network to avoid scrutiny.

The Herald Sun can reveal a hunt for concealed phones and SIM cards was one element of a major sweep of Weir’s training complex and home near Ballarat in January.

Officers from the Sporting Integrity and Intelligence Unit used hi-tech Australian Federal Police equipment during the January 30 raid.

LEGEND OF DARREN WEIR IN TATTERS

HORSE TRAINER BANNED FOR FOUR YEARS

MESSARA: WE MUST PROVE RACING’S A KIND SPORT

It is clear investigators believe it possible suspects were using “burner” phones unknown to racing authorities.

Licensed personnel, including trainers and stablehands, must hand over their phones to Racing Victoria on request.

Victoria Police said the AFP was not involved in the Weir inquiry but its equipment allowed a faster, more thorough search.

“The search was made in an effort to locate any items of interest that could be used for evidentiary purposes, which included mobile phones and SIM cards,” a spokeswoman said.

It is not known whether any phones or SIM cards were found.

Weir was disqualified for four years by racing authorities in February after jiggers — electronic devices used to shock horses — were found in the disgraced trainer’s bedroom in January.

His stables have been sold and hundreds of horses transferred to other trainers.

Phone calls and text messages have been key elements in previous racing integrity and match-fixing investigations in recent years.

Text messages obtained from float driver Greg Nelligan’s mobile led to the disqualification of eight people in the Aquanita doping scandal.

Group 1-winning trainer Robert Smerdon, Tony Vasil, Stuart Webb and Liam Birchley are appealing against their bans.

Phone taps have also been used to uncover corruption in harness racing, leading to convictions against Larry Eastman and others.

Photos and video from hidden cameras are believed to be central to the Weir investigation.

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Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2019-Apr-15, 08:09 PM Reply #252 »
Thanks G. You are right. I mixed it up with another horse. I modified my original post too.

I've got a lot of them black booked to try and keep track,  I've certainly missed a few too  :shy:

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« 2019-Apr-15, 08:12 PM Reply #253 »
Police hunt for secret phones, SIMs in raid on Darren Weir’s property
Leo Schlink and Mark Buttler, Herald Sun
April 14, 2019 9:51pm
Subscriber only
Police are investigating whether suspects in the Darren Weir racing corruption probe used a secret communications network to avoid scrutiny.

The Herald Sun can reveal a hunt for concealed phones and SIM cards was one element of a major sweep of Weir’s training complex and home near Ballarat in January.

Officers from the Sporting Integrity and Intelligence Unit used hi-tech Australian Federal Police equipment during the January 30 raid.

LEGEND OF DARREN WEIR IN TATTERS

HORSE TRAINER BANNED FOR FOUR YEARS

MESSARA: WE MUST PROVE RACING’S A KIND SPORT

It is clear investigators believe it possible suspects were using “burner” phones unknown to racing authorities.

Licensed personnel, including trainers and stablehands, must hand over their phones to Racing Victoria on request.

Victoria Police said the AFP was not involved in the Weir inquiry but its equipment allowed a faster, more thorough search.

“The search was made in an effort to locate any items of interest that could be used for evidentiary purposes, which included mobile phones and SIM cards,” a spokeswoman said.

It is not known whether any phones or SIM cards were found.

Weir was disqualified for four years by racing authorities in February after jiggers — electronic devices used to shock horses — were found in the disgraced trainer’s bedroom in January.

His stables have been sold and hundreds of horses transferred to other trainers.

Phone calls and text messages have been key elements in previous racing integrity and match-fixing investigations in recent years.

Text messages obtained from float driver Greg Nelligan’s mobile led to the disqualification of eight people in the Aquanita doping scandal.

Group 1-winning trainer Robert Smerdon, Tony Vasil, Stuart Webb and Liam Birchley are appealing against their bans.

Phone taps have also been used to uncover corruption in harness racing, leading to convictions against Larry Eastman and others.

Photos and video from hidden cameras are believed to be central to the Weir investigation.

ENDS


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3 months on and there's either a mountain of evidence to sift through or they are scratching to put it together  :shrug:

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« 2019-Apr-15, 09:29 PM Reply #254 »


Political correctness -- gone mad!

Why would a truly great trainer be brought down by those that could not train a choko vine over a back fence?

RVL seems determined to sacrifice the whole game for a misplaced concern for training methods proved -- and proved to be of no consequence for the horse!

RVL needs a royal reality commission.


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« 2019-Apr-15, 10:44 PM Reply #255 »
3 months on and there's either a mountain of evidence to sift through or they are scratching to put it together  :shrug:

He did take a guilty plea. The investigation now will centre on is it corruption / fraud or possession of jiggers.

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« 2019-Apr-16, 07:32 PM Reply #256 »
He did take a guilty plea. The investigation now will centre on is it corruption / fraud or possession of jiggers.

Technically he didn't Jeunes, he refused to answer questions.

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« 2019-Apr-16, 09:13 PM Reply #257 »
Technically he didn't Jeunes, he refused to answer questions.

But accepted the penalty without appeal. I consider that a guilty plea.

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« 2019-Apr-17, 10:22 PM Reply #258 »


I would consider it a very sensible 'one finger' salute to RVL  -- an expectation that sanity will be restored along with the licence of a hall-of-famer!

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« 2019-Apr-18, 10:38 AM Reply #259 »
But accepted the penalty without appeal. I consider that a guilty plea.

Hard to say Jeunes, I guess we'll find out one day down the track  :shrug:


I would consider it a very sensible 'one finger' salute to RVL  -- an expectation that sanity will be restored along with the licence of a hall-of-famer!

Even the most ardent supporter of the stable would say you are dreaming Pete   :lol:

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« 2019-May-19, 09:50 PM Reply #260 »
Does anyone know what is happening with the Weir investigation or because of the 4 year suspension, it is considered finished?

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« 2019-May-19, 10:23 PM Reply #261 »
My understanding is that the police investigation is ongoing.

As usual there will be no comment until they have completed that and decided whether or not criminal charges are warranted.

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« 2019-May-19, 10:47 PM Reply #262 »
Thanks So Big.

I was reading somewhere that his stables have nearly all been solid. So not sure if he gets the money if an investigation is ongoing etc.

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« 2019-May-20, 08:49 PM Reply #263 »
I'm sure I read where Lindsay Smith commented the other day when taking the Warrnambool base that Weir will be back.  :chin:


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« 2019-May-20, 09:02 PM Reply #264 »
He did say that Gintara but it might have been simply an observation that he thought Weir would train again in the future

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« 2019-May-21, 01:02 PM Reply #265 »
The AGE has done or will be doing a piece on beach harassment at Warrnambool . Anyone know about this story?

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« 2019-May-27, 11:37 PM Reply #266 »
Interesting article below regarding the trainers premiership in Victoria. This scenario was alluded to months ago on this topic so good to see racenet following suit.   :lol:

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/should-darren-weir-be-crowned-melbourne-s-champion-trainer-20190527

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« 2019-Aug-04, 02:28 PM Reply #267 »
Police still waiting for advice on Weir charges

POLICE are waiting for advice from the Office of Public Prosecutions six months after dramatic raids on the powerful Darren Weir racing stable.

Prosecutors are still examining a complex brief of evidence which The Sunday Mail understands runs to thousands of pages, including phone tap material, video, detailed statements as well as forensic material.

Their opinion will be a key element in what criminal charges, if any, are laid against the disgraced trainer and other figures entangled in the scandal.

Weir had the nation’s biggest stable before January’s bombshell raids by the Victoria Police sporting integrity intelligence unit.

Three jiggers – electrical devices used to shock horses – were seized by investigators.

Racing authorities have suspended Weir from training for four years.

It had been expected that it could be many months before a decision could be made on laying charges.

“Investigations of this nature are complex and given the potential the outcome has to impact on the sport, it is important we get them right,” a Victoria Police spokeswoman said.

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Possible criminal charges pending leaves a lot to the imagination .......what could they possibly be ......he was never observed using the jiggers..... none of his track riders or jockeys were ever charged .....quite possibly they may not were ever spoken to or questioned....so animal cruelty should be ruled out.....he won lots of races no postive swabs to speak of...something is missing.
 
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« 2019-Aug-04, 05:06 PM Reply #268 »

................... time for an inquiry........ a national inquiry into the racing industry


It was not just DW .............. other prominent trainers also just walked away.

It is not just Victoria .............. there is an amusing circus performance routinely going on in Queensland.

The 'ruthless-dictatorship' model for the administration of the business, across the states, has not met criteria of 'natural justice'.

The 'financials' as between the metropolitan, regional and country racing components in the different states would hardly stand cursory scrutiny against sound criteria for managing the levying and distribution of the 'tax-take' however it may be misrepresented as 'funding for racing'.

At the heart of any such inquiry would be an exploration of 'what happened' in Victorian racing -- and an explanation of how what is now going on could be considered sensible.




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« 2019-Aug-04, 06:00 PM Reply #269 »
What would be the parameters of the inquiry?

Would they look at the role of the corporates, multiple runners from the same stable in a race, form reversals, big plunges, drifting favourites in conjunction with bad rides, breeding industry backhanders etc

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« 2019-Aug-04, 06:28 PM Reply #270 »


....... all that and more ..... just savour the thought of a Ms Shock-and-Orr being let loose on racing's rorters.

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« 2019-Aug-04, 06:47 PM Reply #271 »
Who will fund this inquiry as there is no Federal jurisdiction as such?

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« 2019-Aug-04, 06:58 PM Reply #272 »


The ACCC could take the lead on the basis that it is responsible to protect consumers -- who actually pay the freight -- and ASIC also has a role in outlawing products that are designed to be 'detrimental to consumers'.

Victoria will resist any national inquiry as will the bookmaker beneficiaries of the degradation of racing in that state -- all other states may well be persuaded to use a vehicle like COAG to authorize a national inquiry.

.... the thought still lingers that those betting on the races are morally compromised and undeserving.



 

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« 2019-Aug-04, 07:34 PM Reply #273 »
  :lol:

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« 2019-Aug-04, 07:51 PM Reply #274 »
PM, with all seriousness when was the last time the ACC called an inquiry?



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