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O.P. « 2017-Jan-17, 08:01 PM »
Wow the Hayes/Dabernig team have a strong hand this year, happy to back a few five weeks out:

Back - Tulip
Save - Catchy
Roughie - Eshtiraak

Eshtiraak goes around at Pakenham on Thursday, keen to see again. Prob more of a big track Sires Produce horse.

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« 2017-Jan-17, 11:19 PM Reply #1 »
Eshtiraak has opened at $1.45 for Thurs night with $126 available for the Diamond. Might be worth a spec as probably shortens by default if it's even a semi impressive winner.

Edit: Muraahib accepted for Adelaide Sat so may start even shorter, looks like a free throw at the stumps (from the boundary line haha).
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« 2017-Jan-18, 06:32 AM Reply #2 »
It's certainly bred well enough thats for sure

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« 2017-Jan-18, 09:00 AM Reply #3 »
Yeah it's quite interesting you have Street Cry over Danehill line (produced Shocking and many others) and Success Express line (Winx). Someone has done their homework there   emthup

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« 2017-Jan-19, 05:05 PM Reply #4 »

Very impressive



ESHTIRAAK (AUS)
Bay colt 2014 
Street Cry
Bay or brown 1998
Machiavellian
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Gold Digger
Bay 1962
Nashua
Sequence
1952
1946
3-m
13-c
Coup de Folie
Bay 1982
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Cosmah
1958
1953
4-n
2-d
Raise the Standard
Bay 1978
Hoist the Flag
Natalma
1968
1957
5-i
2-d
Helen Street
Bay 1982
Troy
Bay 1976
Petingo
Bay 1965
Petition
Alcazar
1944
1957
16-g
22>
La Milo
Chestnut 1963
Hornbeam
Pin Prick
1953
1955
1-p
1-b
Waterway
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Bay 1969
Never Bend
River Lady
1960
1963
19-b
10-a
Boulevard
Chestnut 1968
Pall Mall
Costa Sola
1955
1963
7-d
1-l
Succeeding
Bay 2001
Flying Spur
Bay 1992
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Rolls
Chestnut 1984
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Grand Luxe
Chestnut 1974
Sir Ivor
Fanfreluche
1965
1967
8-g
4-g
Staging
Bay 1994
Success Express
Bay 1985
Hold Your Peace
Bay 1969
Speak John
Blue Moon
1958
1948
1-l
12-b
Au Printemps
Bay 1979
Dancing Champ
Lorgnette
1972
1964
4-r
17-b
Cinerama
Bay 1986
Best Western
Chestnut 1978
Bletchingly
Grease Paint
1970
1970
7-a
2-b
Bold Bridget
Bay 1974
Bold Flip
Background
1968
1956
9-b
2-e
 Ancestor duplications:Mr Prospector3m x 4f

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« 2017-Jan-19, 08:43 PM Reply #5 »
Yes a nice colt, takes him a while to balance up but looks good when he does.

Took a bit of the $101/$26 on offer weighted towards the place div so hopefully he shows up there kept fresh and can run into the finish ala Octagonal Golden Slipper. Probably anything he does as a 2yo is a bonus with that breeding.

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« 2017-Feb-07, 09:22 AM Reply #6 »
Race 1 - Ladbrokes Blue Diamond Prelude (C&G) (1100 METRES)
Of $200,000.1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000, 6th $4,000, 7th $4,000, 8th $4,000GROUP 3
Set Weights, Two-Years-Old, Colts and Geldings, Apprentices cannot claim.
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.

Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 5 

Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM
 Last 10HorseSexAgeTrainerBallotWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
114x2AZAZELC2Tony McEvoy155.5kg73
221PROPERTYG2Robert Smerdon255.5kg73
313x6WAIT FOR NO ONESuper vobis bonus schemeC2David & B Hayes & T Dabernig355.5kg71
41PARIAHC2Peter & Paul Snowden455.5kg74
521xCAO CAOC2Mick Price555.5kg71
62xCANíT REMEMBERSuper vobis bonus schemeC2John Moloney655.5kg68
71MARSUPIALC2John O'Shea755.5kg64
83INDERNILESuper vobis bonus schemeC2Gerard Moloney855.5kg64
91DUCIMUSC2Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes955.5kg63
101WILLíS BIDSuper vobis bonus schemeC2David & B Hayes & T Dabernig1055.5kg63
114OVERSHAREC2Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes1155.5kg62
125SHEER MADNESSSuper vobis bonus schemeG2John Salanitri1255.5kg61
13#####ANNUNCIATEC2Pat Hyland13=55.5kg
14#####CUTLASSSuper vobis bonus schemeC2Mick Price13=55.5kg
15#####MIGHTY BOSSC2Mick Price13=55.5kg
16#####SCUDTIMEC2Matt Laurie13=55.5kg

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« 2017-Feb-07, 09:23 AM Reply #7 »
Race 2 - Ladbrokes Blue Diamond Prelude (F) (1100 METRES)
Of $200,000.1st $120,000, 2nd $36,000, 3rd $18,000, 4th $9,000, 5th $5,000, 6th $4,000, 7th $4,000, 8th $4,000GROUP 2
Set Weights, Two-Years-Old, Fillies, Apprentices cannot claim.
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.

Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 5 

Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM
 Last 10HorseSexAgeTrainerBallotWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
1311LIMESTONESuper vobis bonus schemeF2Darren Weir155.5kg75
21xJORDAF2John O'Shea255.5kg72
341xARCTIC ANGELSuper vobis bonus schemeF2Mathew Ellerton & Simon Zahra355.5kg72
412TULIPF2David & B Hayes & T Dabernig455.5kg72
511CATCHYF2David & B Hayes & T Dabernig555.5kg71
61ROOMOOZF2Tony McEvoy655.5kg66
71BLONDIESuper vobis bonus schemeF2Brendan McCarthy755.5kg66
81SOMETHING VIOLETSuper vobis bonus schemeF2Robbie Griffiths855.5kg66
93x2ZARPOYASuper vobis bonus schemeF2Robbie Griffiths955.5kg64
103PANDEMONIUMF2Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott1055.5kg63
118CHERIEFíS CHOICESuper vobis bonus schemeF2Robbie Griffiths1155.5kg61
12#####BELLA MARTINISuper vobis bonus schemeF2Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes12=55.5kg
13#####FABRICATIONSuper vobis bonus schemeF2Robbie Griffiths12=55.5kg
14#####MISS ADMIRATIONF2Mick Price12=55.5kg
15#####MISS GAIF2Mick Price12=55.5kg
16#####MISS NITROF2Kane Harris12=55.5kg

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« 2017-Feb-10, 09:58 AM Reply #8 »
Pariah is a bit short, solid win first time out but Menari should have clearly beaten it. Property looks backable odds - backing any 2yo C Williams is on has been pretty reliable.

Might quinella the favourites in the fillies, they look to have a clear edge on the rest.

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« 2017-Feb-10, 01:34 PM Reply #9 »
Pariah is a bit short, solid win first time out but Menari should have clearly beaten it. Property looks backable odds - backing any 2yo C Williams is on has been pretty reliable.

Might quinella the favourites in the fillies, they look to have a clear edge on the rest.

I thought the race Pariah won was fairly strong class mate but agree you gotta look for value.

I would urge anyone doing the form for this race to check out the win of Marsupial

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2017Jan20&VenueCode=MzExNjA=&RaceNumber=1&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

Watch for two things:

i) The size of him - he dwarfs everything else
ii) The way he finally gets the gap after being held up for the majority of the race - and it takes him a little while to "warm up" but by the time the post comes up he is warmed up and starting to move away.

He looks like a good sort for the Diamond. Very big and strong Street Cry colt and the $8 appeals on Saturday. His dam (Koala Bear so hence the name) was a stakes winner and his maternal granddam won 5 stakes races including a Villiers.

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« 2017-Feb-10, 06:52 PM Reply #10 »
Yeah no denying Pariah has plenty of upside, just a bit short for mine. First time left handed against Property who's just going to get every chance from gate 3. All a bit of a guessing game with 2yo's.

Marsupial looks like another monster Street Cry colt, he sure could throw a horse. Going to be better as a 3yo but looks loaded with talent. Hope he doesn't have joint issues like so many bigger horses, in capable hands though.

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« 2017-Feb-11, 08:01 AM Reply #11 »
I'll be surprised if Roomooz runs a place here, horses can improve rapidly off their debut but she was all out to beat Jolie Rose over here in moderate time. Reckon they'll give her windburn.

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« 2017-Feb-13, 12:34 AM Reply #12 »
Well Pariah was very good, you'd almost certainly be backing it to turn the tables on Property over 1200m after a run the Melbourne way, reasonable barrier draw permitting.

Roomooz surprised me and looks suited to 1200m.

Word is Damien Oliver takes the ride on Tulip and Ryan Moore jumps on Formality. Craig Williams to decide tomorrow but hard to see him going away from Catchy.

Eshtiraak skips the Diamond and goes down the Sires Produce route, probably the right call.

What an even and competitive race this year  8)
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« 2017-Feb-13, 11:55 AM Reply #13 »
Pariah reminded me very much of Pride Of Dubai a couple of years ago.

Didn't he run 2nd in a lead up with "back me over 1200m" stamped on his forehead and then win the Diamond for the same stable?

I don't think they should pay the late entry fee for Property.

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« 2017-Feb-13, 01:19 PM Reply #14 »
The colts or the fillies ?

My gut feeling is the fillies.   Since the BD Previews on Australia Day the fillies races have been faster than the colts and the fillies dominated the Chairman's Stakes.  The only race the fillies did not make their mark was the Inglis Classic which was basically a field of colts against one lone filly. 

The best of the fillies ? 

Catchy, particularly after Saturday when I thought she had every opportunity to lose.  She has had Property's measure and been quicker on the clock and I haven't seen a colt that is a better measure to this point.

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« 2017-Feb-21, 12:03 PM Reply #15 »
Ladbrokes Blue Diamond Stakes (1200 METRES)
Of $1,500,000.1st $900,000, 2nd $270,000, 3rd $135,000, 4th $67,500, 5th $37,500, 6th $30,000, 7th $30,000, 8th $30,000
GROUP 1 Set Weights, Two-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim.
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.

Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 3

Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 211 PROPERTY Robert Smerdon Joao Moreira 3 56.5kg
2 14x24 AZAZEL Tony McEvoy Kerrin McEvoy 1 56.5kg
3 11 JUKEBOX Ciaron Maher Luke Nolen 4 56.5kg
4 12 PARIAH Peter & Paul Snowden Blake Shinn 11 56.5kg
5 13x63 WAIT FOR NO ONE David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Regan Bayliss 10 56.5kg
6 1x7 ASPECT Tony McEvoy Luke Currie 14 56.5kg
7 21x6 CAO CAO Mick Price Mark Zahra 2 56.5kg
8 322 TAKING AIM Peter & Paul Snowden Craig Newitt 6 56.5kg
9 11 MURAAHIB David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Steven Arnold 15 56.5kg
10 10 WILL’S BID David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Damian Lane 16 56.5kg
11 111 CATCHY David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Craig Williams 13 54.5kg
12 11 FORMALITY David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Ryan Moore 12 54.5kg
13 12 TULIP David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Damien Oliver 8 54.5kg
14 2x43 SPOILS Clinton McDonald Ben Melham 17 54.5kg
15 14 ROOMOOZ Tony McEvoy Dwayne Dunn 5 54.5kg
16 1 BLONDIE Brendan McCarthy 9 54.5kg
17e 59 SHEER MADNESS John Salanitri Stephen Baster 7 56.5kg

Final field with barriers, many of the favourites drawing out. Bit of a forgettable barrier draw for the Hayes camp bar Tulip (woohoo) :x:
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« 2017-Feb-21, 12:23 PM Reply #16 »
caulfield Racecourse

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« 2017-Feb-21, 01:13 PM Reply #17 »
That is a sexist barrier draw. 

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« 2017-Feb-23, 07:51 AM Reply #18 »
When Property beat Pariah they had both raced 2 weeks earlier, in the same race Wills Bid on the other hand hadn't raced for just on 7 weeks, he drew wide went back to last and was blocked for a run in the straight, he should have finished on the heels of the first 2 at least, he has drawn wide again but the blinkers go on and I reckon they will be a lot more positive, Property and Pariah are in single figures and $81 is available about Will's Bid, not a race you could be confident about anything in, the fav is $6 and there are 6 under $10, a good ride and some luck will win the race, $81 Will's Bid (Centrebet)will do me for an interest

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« 2017-Feb-24, 08:35 AM Reply #19 »
Jukebox showing signs of lameness in near fore. Will be vetted again this afternoon, but must be in grave doubt.

Of course, he's in grave doubt, because I'm on him ante post at 40/1!

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« 2017-Feb-24, 06:55 PM Reply #20 »
Snowden to win this race - not necessarily the shorter priced one either....

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« 2017-Feb-24, 07:19 PM Reply #21 »
Jukebox showing signs of lameness in near fore. Will be vetted again this afternoon, but must be in grave doubt.

Of course, he's in grave doubt, because I'm on him ante post at 40/1!

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