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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2017-Nov-16, 05:40 PM Reply #25 »

It may be helpful for the wily one to have a go at explaining the prevalence of rough results in races over 1400 m at Flemington and Caulfield.

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« 2017-Nov-16, 05:48 PM Reply #26 »
Given  you, once again, cant explain your claims  of the tamasa race your assertions are clearly bullshite :

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« 2017-Nov-16, 07:05 PM Reply #27 »
It may be helpful for the wily one to have a go at explaining the prevalence of rough results in races over 1400 m at Flemington and Caulfield.

Um Pete given I know you don't have the balls or racing knowledge to answer my question. I'll answer yours for you

Cup Day  no upsets from 3 races. Punters spot on
Dash for Dollar won. 2nd favourite
Crown Witness won as favourite.
Pedrana won. widely tipped and 3rd fave

Ladies Day . 1 slightly rough result and 1 very predictable win by punters
Tribal Wisdom Greys race and no hard luck stories. Gosford Guineas winner. Won 3 from 10.
 Hellova Street favourite.

Emirates Day. 1 win predicted by punters. 1 slightly rough
Moher equal 3rd fave. Group 3 placed. 7  career wins. 2 wins and 1 placing from 5 goes 3rd up
Kentucky Breeze. Well bred unbeaten. Won in good time only win when 2nd fave

All in all punters found it very easy to identify 5 of the 7 winners

Thus making Your claim of ""a prevalence of rough results"" utter bullshit :bulb:
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« 2017-Nov-17, 01:00 AM Reply #28 »

Wily  -- I know you are wheeling the barrow to get me set on the RVL board--- but don't make it so obvious, please.

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« 2017-Nov-17, 03:54 PM Reply #29 »
Oh Pete. Yes you are being put front and centre. Your lies, self interest and dishonesty is on show for all to see :beer:

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« 2018-Jan-10, 09:23 PM Reply #30 »
Smerdon charges just the start of another long integrity saga
By Bren O'Brien 10 hours ago
Robert Smerdon is one of eight people chargedImage: Getty Images
Comment: For the third time in six years, Victorian racing faces a major scandal involving some of its most high-profile participants.

The charges against Robert Smerdon and his cohorts are serious and involve the raceday treatment of horses for over seven years.

The fiasco over the cobalt charges involving Danny O’Brien and Mark Kavanagh is a reminder that the presumption of innocence always prevails until the judicial process reaches its end.

Remarkably that case is still ongoing, with O’Brien and Kavanagh to face VCAT on presentation charges later this month, over three years since they and Peter Moody were first informed their horses had tested positive to excessive levels of cobalt.

If anyone knows the difficulty of prosecuting serious charges it is Racing Victoria, who have had a hard time of getting the rulings of the RAD Board upheld by VCAT and related courts in recent years.

The cobalt prosecutions have turned into a costly debacle, with everything from the science behind the law to the competency of integrity staff put on trial.

Danny O'Brien and Mark Kavangah have fought their cobalt charges all the way (Getty images)

Prior to that, RV was put through a lengthy legal process with former trainer Mark Riley, who initially successfully argued in the Supreme Court that a three-year ban on him over elevated TCO2 levels should not stand. RV eventually won that case in the Court of Appeal, but that occurred some 18 months after Riley was initially suspended.

While the cobalt case was argued over the definition of administration, the Riley case was a debate about rounding and the margin of error that should be accounted for.

Where the case against Smerdon and co differs is that RV will try to prove a case of simple raceday administration. There will be little scientific debate involved.

Smerdon charged over raceday treatment
Float driver charged with laying stable horses
Smerdon's career of triumph and controversy

Under rule 178E(1), no person may without the permission of stewards cause to be administered any medication to a horse on race day prior to such horse running in a race.

RV’s integrity team will also tender evidence that Smerdon was engaged in a practice that was dishonest, corrupt or fraudulent, improper or dishonourable, in that he was a party to the administration of alkalinising agents and/or medications to a horse or horses on a race day. That would be a breach of AR 175 A.

This relates to 115 alleged incidents spanning back until June 2010.

The first question asked after the charges were announced on Wednesday was why has it taken seven years? 

The answer would appear to be that when RV confiscated the phone of stablehand and float driver Greg Nelligan, they uncovered what they allege is a historical pattern of behaviour.

Nelligan’s phone was confiscated when the integrity team allegedly found him about to treat Lovani with a syringe on Turnbull Stakes day last year. It is alleged that syringe contained sodium bicarbonate, colloquially knows as a milkshake.

The information received from that phone forms the basis of the charges laid this week. Nelligan is accused of breaching the laws of racing in 123 occasions. He also faces two charges of betting against horses in Smerdon’s yard.

Information gleaned from Nelligan’s phone has also allowed stewards to charge Tony Vasil with seven breaches of AR175, suspended trainer Trent Pennutto with four breaches and Liam Birchley and Stuart Webb with three breaches each.

Tony Vasil, who trained stars such as Elvstroem and Haradasun, is among those charged (Getty images)

Stable staff Daniel Garland and Denise Nelligan also face charges.

So what are the chances the charges stick?

Any legal challenges will no doubt centre on Nelligan and his phone, and whether the alleged historical breaches can be proven based on text messages.

The science of treatment should not be called into question, because any treatment on raceday is a breach of the rules. Unlike the cobalt case, the substance does not matter.

Any argument will likely be over the timing of treatment and whether the correspondence on Nelligan’s phone is indeed a true record of what has happened.

It’s a complex conspiracy which has been alleged and one which should it be put through the courts, is unlikely to be resolved quickly.

Even if, as some have suggested, Smerdon does a Peter Moody and retires, there are seven others who may look to defend their careers.

They deserve the right to do that, but in that case, we could be set for another cobalt-like saga.   

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« 2018-Jan-12, 10:31 PM Reply #31 »
Smerdon, Webb stand down and show causes issued
Andrew Eddy@fastisheddy   4:16pm
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In a dramatic turn to the Lovani inquiry, trainers Robert Smerdon and Stuart Webb have stood down while another three past and present Aquanita employees have been asked to show cause why they should not be stood down pending the hearing of the race day treatment charges.

In a media release on Friday, Racing Victoria announced that after discussions between Aquanita Racing and Racing Victoria, four Aquanita employees have relinquished their roles pending the completion of the inquiry.

Aquanita Racing on Friday informed Racing Victoria that its employees Robert Smerdon, Denise Nelligan, Stuart Webb and Daniel Garland had agreed to stand down pending an upcoming hearing of the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board.

The effect of their standing down is that they will be regarded as suspended persons. They will be permitted to attend race meetings but will not participate in their normal activities as licensed or registered persons.

Show cause notices were also issued to trainers Tony Vasil and Liam Birchley and former Aquanita Racing employee Greg Nelligan who have been asked to submit their case as to why they should remain actively involved in the industry. 

Trainer Trent Pennuto is already serving a period of disqualification after being found guilty of AR 64G (stomach tubing) in August 2017. He was advised that if the charges against him have not been heard and determined prior to the conclusion of his suspension in May, he also many expect to receive a show cause letter.

In a media release on Friday, Aquanita Racing explained the process that led to Smerdon and three other employees standing down from their roles.

‘’After much consideration, being mindful of their responsibilities to staff and owners and in the broader interests of racing, they have decided to stand down from their training duties at Aquanita and within their respective businesses effective, Monday, January 15,’’ the Aquanita release stated.

‘’As well as contacting owners to advise them of this decision, we are in the process of allocating training responsibilities to Rob Hickmott, Henry Dwyer, John Sadler and Nick Ryan.

‘’With these multiple group 1 winning trainers, we have every confidence the horses trained by Robert and Stuart will receive outstanding training and care.

‘’Those charged are entitled to natural justice, which includes the presumption of innocence. It is for this reason we have decided it is fair and appropriate that they continue to be paid pending the outcome of future hearings or changes in circumstances.’’

Racing Victoria’s chief executive officer Giles Thompson said: ‘’It is important to say that all of those charged by stewards on Tuesday have a presumption of innocence, however given the serious nature of the charges the stewards believe this is an appropriate course of action for the Aquanita personnel to have taken.

‘’Under the Australian Rules of Racing, the registered and licensed personnel facing charges can be stood down pending a hearing if their continued participation in racing might pose an unacceptable risk to, prejudice or undermine the image, interests or integrity of racing.’’

As for the show causes, stewards are considering possible action under Australian Rule of Racing 8(z) which states:

‘’Notwithstanding anything contained within these Rules, and not in limitation of any power conferred by these Rules, where a person has been charged with a breach of these Rules (Or a local rule of a Principal Racing Authority) or a person has been charged with the commission of an indictable criminal offence, the Stewards pursuant to the authority delegated by the Principal Racing Authority, if of the opinion that the continued participation of that person in racing might pose an unacceptable risk to, prejudice or undermine the image, interests or integrity of racing may:

(a)  suspend and licence, registration, right, or privilege granted under these Rules to that person;

(b)  prevent any horse owned (or part-owned) or leased by that person from participating in any race or official trial;

(c) order that any registration of the transfer of ownership and/or training of a horse related to that person not be effected;

(d)  make any other direction or order related to the person which is in the interests of racing,

‘’Racing Victoria welcomes Aquanita’s decision and its continued cooperation with this inquiry,’’ Thompson said.

‘’It’s vital that the integrity of Victorian thoroughbred racing is protected while we await the outcomes of the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board hearing of these charges.

‘’The Stewards have made no determinations concerning the show cause notices involving Mr Vasil, Mr Birchley and Mr Nelligan and they will be given the full opportunity to put submissions to the Stewards in regards to their own situations

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