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Offline Bamboo Harvester

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O.P. « 2009-Feb-23, 12:46 PM »
$500,000 mile race and they got five nominations.  Very disappointing.

(Hussler, Segundo, Alamosa, L. Fantastic and Niconero).


FUTURITY STAKES - 1600M

Of $500000 and $4600 trophy.  1st $300000 and trophy of $4600, 2nd $90000, 3rd $45000, 4th $22500, 5th $12500, 6th $10000, 7th $10000, 8th $10000.  Standard Weight for Age. (GROUP 1).  No Allowances for apprentices.  Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM

NoHorseTrainerHandicapper
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1ALAMOSA (NZ)Mick Price
2EL SEGUNDO (NZ)Colin Little119
3LIGHT FANTASTICMick Price
4NICONERODavid Hayes
5WEEKEND HUSSLERRoss McDonald120
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« 2009-Feb-23, 01:58 PM Reply #1 »
Who else did you expect to see in it?

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:10 PM Reply #2 »
No specific names, just hoped that there might be a few optomistic trainers with decent milers thinking:

"well, maybe the Hussler IS gone, and El Segundo hasn't come up, and it's a $500,000 race...why not!" 

It's $90/- for second, $45/- for third, and many good milers are otherwise racing in tough fields of 15+ for group 1 money (Toorak, Emirates, Randwick miles etc)

Would be nice to see 10-12 horses making the tactics a bit more interesting (maybe), rather than a guaranteed sit-sprint tactical battle.  Again.

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:16 PM Reply #3 »
This is what real group 1 racing is about CLASS   8-)

Not the punt.

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:20 PM Reply #4 »
This is what real group 1 racing is about CLASS   8-)

Not the punt.

BAH!  They can co-exist.  Not even sure if Light Fantastic will run...thought they were keeping him to sprints.

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:21 PM Reply #5 »
Thsi will be a sprint, a 400m sprint.

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:21 PM Reply #6 »
Poor me, I thought Group racing was about  :censored: moolah, one way or another ! :chin:

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:23 PM Reply #7 »
Very disappointing not to see one group winner in the  race  8)

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:23 PM Reply #8 »
Of course it is, but it aint about filling it up with crap just for the sake of a 3rd place dividend.   emthup

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« 2009-Feb-23, 02:23 PM Reply #9 »
Thsi will be a sprint, a 400m sprint.

True!  Anyone got the stats to show which of them can sprint quickest over 500m off a slow pace? Guess it depends on what you make of WH.

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« 2009-Feb-23, 05:16 PM Reply #10 »
Hopefully WH's big fans will keep Alamosa's price decent.

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« 2009-Feb-24, 05:02 AM Reply #11 »
A couple of late noms would help. If the Hussler leads and gets run down that'd be it for his ranking as no.1

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« 2009-Feb-24, 06:03 AM Reply #12 »
Two late noms - Down Under Boy and Time Matters.  The latter races on / near the pace, so that won't do the race any harm.

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« 2009-Feb-24, 07:49 AM Reply #13 »
I'm surprised that Gai has late nomed with Theseo

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« 2009-Feb-24, 08:48 AM Reply #14 »
i'd be putting in a 3 yo - probably an easier race than the hobartville- i'd be happy to back mic mac here

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« 2009-Feb-24, 09:04 AM Reply #15 »
Will be D-day for the Hussler though. Has to win.

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« 2009-Feb-24, 09:08 AM Reply #16 »
Surely the time has come to reverse back to the Autumn Carnival of 15 years ago, before the ridiculous Triple Crown idea surfaced, i.e the carnival would work like:

Moonee Valley - William Reid
Caulfield - Orr
Flemington - Lightning, Aus Guineas and Blamey
Caulfield - Blue Diamond & Oakleigh Plate
Caulfield - Futurity
Flemington - Aus Cup & Newmarket
Moonee Valley - Carlyon (ex Stanley Wooton?) stakes and Alister Clarke.

Maybe you could swap the William Reid and the Carlyon, but I think the carnival worked much better then.

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« 2009-Feb-24, 08:55 PM Reply #17 »
Who is KEIKOGI  :what:   :shy:

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« 2009-Feb-24, 09:41 PM Reply #18 »

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« 2009-Feb-25, 08:48 AM Reply #19 »
Hussler in doubt for Futurity

24/02/2009 4:46 PM
Andrew Wu
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Star galloper Weekend Hussler was far from a certain starter in this Saturday's G1 Futurity Stakes at Caulfield, trainer Ross McDonald warned on Tuesday.

McDonald will accept for the Futurity with Weekend Hussler on Wednesday morning but a final decision on a start will be made on Saturday morning after regular track rider Les Beer partners him in a gallop at Caulfield.

"He knows how he feels," McDonald said. "He knows how he's got to feel like to win."

"I don't want people backing him yet. Bookies are dangling the carrot of $2.50 and everyday's a different day with him."

But buoyed by how well the four-year-old pulled up from a gallop on the course proper on Tuesday morning, McDonald was confident Weekend Hussler would run in the Futurity.

"We didn't work him hard this morning," he said.

"He had some nice striding work and seemed to pull up well from that. He'll do some work cantering tomorrow and a little bit more on Thursday."

"The way he's going, I'm quite happy with him and if he keeps progressing like that he'll run."

Carlyon Cup winner Time Matters was among seven late entries for the Futurity after the Melbourne Racing Club extended the nominations deadline until Wednesday morning.

Other late entries were Colin Little's pair Blutigeroo and Rubijon, Western Australian galloper Scenic Shot, locally-trained veteran Annenkov, former smart three-year-old Down Under Boy, and Keikogi - a restricted-grade galloper from Wangaratta.

Only five horses were initially entered for the Futurity Stakes - the first leg of the 2009 Asian Mile Challenge - when the original deadline closed on Tuesday.


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« 2009-Feb-25, 08:52 AM Reply #20 »
He's out.

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« 2009-Feb-25, 08:58 AM Reply #21 »
For  :censored:  sake   :tears:

Hussler out of Futurity Stakes
Brad Waters
Wednesday, 25 February 2009


Caulfield trainer Ross McDonald is not 100% happy with stable star Weekend Hussler and has not accepted for Saturday’s GI Rokk Ebony Futurity Stakes at Caulfield.

Weekend Hussler has been battling a back injury since labouring behind Apache Cat in the GI Australia Stakes at Moonee Valley on February 14 and has undergone a course of chiropractic treatment in the ensuing days.

“We simply weren’t 100% happy with him,” McDonald said.

“He was close to being right, we galloped him yesterday and took him out on to the track again this morning but Les (Weekend Hussler’s regular work rider, Les Beer) wasn’t happy with him so we decided to pull the pin.
 
"He's responding well to the treatment but we just ran out of time to run him in the Futurity (Stakes).
“If had have decided to push on to the race and keep working him, we were risking further damage as horses try to compensate for their soreness and put pressure on other parts of their body.”

As a consequence of the injury, McDonald also ruled out an overseas trip for Weekend Hussler.

“He probably can’t go now because we have to ease back on him to let him recover properly,” McDonald said.

“There are plenty of other races around for him at this time of the year, he’s still in the Doncaster and there is always the weight-for-age races like the George Ryder and those sorts of races.

“We’ve still got a horse if we ease off on him now and he’ll be right for Sydney.”

Weekend Hussler’s non-acceptance leaves a field of eight in the Futurity Stakes, headlined by the Mick Price-trained pair Alamosa and Light Fantastic and David Hayes’ warhorse Niconero, last year’s Futurity Stakes winner.


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« 2009-Feb-25, 09:05 AM Reply #22 »
For  :censored:  sake   :tears:

Hussler out of Futurity Stakes
Brad Waters
Wednesday, 25 February 2009


Caulfield trainer Ross McDonald is not 100% happy with stable star Weekend Hussler and has not accepted for Saturday’s GI Rokk Ebony Futurity Stakes at Caulfield.

Weekend Hussler has been battling a back injury since labouring behind Apache Cat in the GI Australia Stakes at Moonee Valley on February 14 and has undergone a course of chiropractic treatment in the ensuing days.

“We simply weren’t 100% happy with him,” McDonald said.

“He was close to being right, we galloped him yesterday and took him out on to the track again this morning but Les (Weekend Hussler’s regular work rider, Les Beer) wasn’t happy with him so we decided to pull the pin.
 
"He's responding well to the treatment but we just ran out of time to run him in the Futurity (Stakes).
“If had have decided to push on to the race and keep working him, we were risking further damage as horses try to compensate for their soreness and put pressure on other parts of their body.”

As a consequence of the injury, McDonald also ruled out an overseas trip for Weekend Hussler.

“He probably can’t go now because we have to ease back on him to let him recover properly,” McDonald said.

“There are plenty of other races around for him at this time of the year, he’s still in the Doncaster and there is always the weight-for-age races like the George Ryder and those sorts of races.

“We’ve still got a horse if we ease off on him now and he’ll be right for Sydney.”

Weekend Hussler’s non-acceptance leaves a field of eight in the Futurity Stakes, headlined by the Mick Price-trained pair Alamosa and Light Fantastic and David Hayes’ warhorse Niconero, last year’s Futurity Stakes winner.






Who are the other 4?

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« 2009-Feb-25, 09:14 AM Reply #23 »
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
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1 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little Luke Nolen 8 59   119
2 NICONERO David Hayes Craig Williams 1 59   112
3 SCENIC SHOT Daniel Morton Jason Brown 5 59   106
4 ALAMOSA (NZ) Mick Price Damien Oliver 7 59   113
5 LIGHT FANTASTIC Mick Price Craig Newitt 3 59   111
6 ANNENKOV (IRE) Peter G Moody  6 59   105
7 RUBIJON Colin Little Danny Brereton 4 59   101
8 TIME MATTERS Darren Weir Dwayne Dunn 2 59   105

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« 2009-Feb-25, 09:15 AM Reply #24 »
Last chance for Light Fantastic


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