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Offline samatt

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O.P. « 2016-Oct-18, 10:53 AM »
Non winner but Black Tomahawk a fair chance to just outsprint these, They may show up but you can have the short prices on the first up imports. Probably form a book around the fit locals.

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« 2016-Oct-18, 11:08 AM Reply #1 »
Does Black Tomahawk have the ability to outsprint anything ?

Race 7 - 4:00PM bet365 Geelong Cup (2400 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $300,000.1st $180,000, 2nd $54,000, 3rd $27,000, 4th $13,500, 5th $7,500, 6th $6,000, 7th $6,000, 8th $6,000GROUP 3
Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices cannot claim.

Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Soft 5 

Field Limit: 17 + 4 EM
NoLast 10HorseTrainerJockeyBarrierWeightPenaltyHcp Rating
190324x6527WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ)Chris Waller1059.5kg109
2132x1837x8GREY LION (IRE)Matt CumaniMs Katelyn Mallyon955kg100
303x8148x07ARAB DAWN (GB)John O'SheaDwayne Dunn1154kg97
4322x01170xKINEMA (IRE)Chris WallerCraig Newitt154kg94
5322x00x22xQEWY (IRE)Charlie ApplebyKerrin McEvoy754kg93
657134x6400SWACADELIC (GER)Aaron PurcellMichael Walker854kg93
71340x65416LUCQUESMathew Ellerton & Simon ZahraDamian Lane454kg89
80508322223BLACK TOMAHAWKDarren WeirCraig Williams354kg88
96x11x4017xOCEANOGRAPHER (GB)Charlie ApplebyBen Melham654kg88
1017177x0042ALL I SURVEYPat CareyMichael Dee (a)554kg75
11x955523331WELLSKathryn DurdenBen Allen (a)254kg75


We know Katelyn Mallyon is happy to allow these imports to bowl along out in front and in their comfort zone it will be interesting to see if Newitt McEvoy and Melham are up to the task of rating their mounts correctly ?

None of these imports will really want to allow it to be a sprint home.






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« 2016-Oct-18, 11:16 AM Reply #2 »
Im all over Oceanographer

Shame about the thieving TAB and their wonderful offer of $58 for the double into the cup :rant: :rant: :rant: :spam:

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« 2016-Oct-18, 05:47 PM Reply #3 »
qwertyu is 150/1 for Tuesday

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« 2016-Oct-18, 05:51 PM Reply #4 »
Was going to look at Arab Dawn but he's out  :/

Can't have any of the locals and its darts for the internationals.

Watch for me  :shrug:

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« 2016-Oct-19, 07:13 AM Reply #5 »
Gin, watch the Ebor replay and it may clear up for you. It certainly did for me

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« 2016-Oct-19, 09:58 AM Reply #6 »
If you are seriously thinking about having a bet in the Geelong Cup, let us know, and we will come over and slap you around the face till you come to your senses. The very best of internationals we know absolutely nothing about vs some very ordinary local stayers. Even the most hard core punter would say Urgh.


Remember when the Geelong Cup used to be a capacity field of tough stayers trying to get into the Melbourne Cup? Apparently this is progress!

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« 2016-Oct-19, 10:14 AM Reply #7 »
If you are seriously thinking about having a bet in the Geelong Cup, let us know, and we will come over and slap you around the face till you come to your senses. The very best of internationals we know absolutely nothing about vs some very ordinary local stayers. Even the most hard core punter would say Urgh.


Remember when the Geelong Cup used to be a capacity field of tough stayers trying to get into the Melbourne Cup? Apparently this is progress!

Yes the anticipation or something coming out of this to catch the eye as a Cup hopeful has gone out with the bath water.
« Last Edit: 2016-Oct-19, 10:38 AM by specialweek »

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« 2016-Oct-19, 10:37 AM Reply #8 »
Hmmm,

Tiny and poor field for a Geelong Cup.

One would have to infer there will be little depth in this years MC.

Fours

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« 2016-Oct-19, 11:07 AM Reply #9 »
Turfdeli you are 100 per cent correct. This obsession with foreign horses has in my opinion diminished the Spring Carnival . As a punter it has become a no go zone. The Melbourne Cup for nearly a century and a half was the race "that stopped a nation". Now with half the field composed of the lesser lights of Europe and  the obligatory runners of various oil sheiks its relevance to this Country is limited. Sure I will watch the race but certainly wont be betting on it ,or even looking forward to it as I once did. To me it now has all the interest of the now defunct Cup Day Hurdle which has now gone because the powers that be didn't want a few half wit protestors playing up in front of all these European toffs. Last year us Aussies got a dream result with  one of the stories you couldn't script. Was it enhanced by all these imports  ? I don't think so. To add insult to injury we had some over the hill and over rated European jockey knock half the field down. When one or two turned up fine, but it has now become ridiculous.

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« 2016-Oct-19, 03:26 PM Reply #10 »
Bit of a grinder but Oceanographer was good, very strong late.

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« 2016-Oct-19, 05:24 PM Reply #11 »
qwertyu is 150/1 for Tuesday

On for a lazy $5  :wub:

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« 2016-Oct-19, 06:55 PM Reply #12 »
Bit of a grinder but Oceanographer was good, very strong late.

Need to watch it again but geez the jock seemed to be in a world of trouble on straightening. Looked like he got the whip tangled in the reins :mad:

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« 2016-Oct-19, 07:30 PM Reply #13 »
Need to watch it again but geez the jock seemed to be in a world of trouble on straightening. Looked like he got the whip tangled in the reins :mad:
She WOD, caught slightly but didn't affect the result.

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« 2016-Oct-20, 06:34 AM Reply #14 »
Morning special  emthup
I was actually talking about Melham on oceanographer

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« 2016-Oct-20, 07:07 AM Reply #15 »
Turfdeli you are 100 per cent correct. This obsession with foreign horses has in my opinion diminished the Spring Carnival . As a punter it has become a no go zone. The Melbourne Cup for nearly a century and a half was the race "that stopped a nation". Now with half the field composed of the lesser lights of Europe and  the obligatory runners of various oil sheiks its relevance to this Country is limited. Sure I will watch the race but certainly wont be betting on it ,or even looking forward to it as I once did. To me it now has all the interest of the now defunct Cup Day Hurdle which has now gone because the powers that be didn't want a few half wit protestors playing up in front of all these European toffs. Last year us Aussies got a dream result with  one of the stories you couldn't script. Was it enhanced by all these imports  ? I don't think so. To add insult to injury we had some over the hill and over rated European jockey knock half the field down. When one or two turned up fine, but it has now become ridiculous.
Dean, not sure I agree with anything you have written here.

Because Australia and to a lesser extent NZ are quite happy to breed the stamina out of the thoroughbred, we need the imports.
The Geelong cup proves that.
If Australia wants to avoid further embarrassment they will have to make the MC a 2000 metre race.
 
 Can't have the MC as a no go zone, too far committed on Almandin for that.
 
 Gunbower said the same thing about the CC and with  favourite winning and a $13.00 quinella would surely dispel that.

You are not suggesting bringing back the cup day hurdle.....are you ?



   










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« 2016-Oct-20, 03:27 PM Reply #16 »
By the time we get to the Cup though Nemisis we've seen a lot of the imports at least once (always a few who go in cold) but we at least have a handle on them.

Yesterday was the 1st up Eruo's v the 3rd rate Aussies.

Not sure why this years addition was such a non event  :shrug:

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« 2016-Oct-20, 04:26 PM Reply #17 »
I thought Oceanographer was pretty good.
Hard to know if he was just having a run.
Greg Carpenter was suggesting he is a bit of a hope of getting a run in the MC.


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