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Steve M

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« 2010-Nov-10, 05:57 PM Reply #50 »
I suspect Mourayan just stuck on dodgy track in The Metro.

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« 2010-Nov-10, 06:28 PM Reply #51 »
To me, a runner up in a group one is a success. There will be far greater failures on that list than him.

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« 2010-Nov-10, 06:31 PM Reply #52 »
Gee Matt you do a lot of research into useless trivia  :lol:   :lol:  :beer: :beer:, what I mean is to have a list of all Lloyds imports?? I respect his motives and I think given time some may acclimatise and improve but he has had a lot of success with Zabeels, Reset and Efficient to name a couple, he has another very promising one in Resetable, can't see why you would be spending Millions buying overseas horses?? for the money he has spent he could nearly have purchased So You Think!!
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« 2010-Nov-10, 07:21 PM Reply #53 »
How much research do you think went into that, and why is it useless trivia, I'd have thought it might help with the debate ?

Horse racing is an interesting SPORT. Its hardly hard work researching it. I guess when you only like the punting side of the game it can be a bit of a drain.

Steve M

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« 2010-Nov-10, 07:36 PM Reply #54 »
Gee Matt you do a lot of research into useless trivia, what I mean is to have a list of all Lloyds imports?? I respect his motives and I think given time some may acclimatise and improve but he has had a lot of success with Zabeels, Reset and Efficient to name a couple, he has another very promising one in Resetable, can't see why you would be spending Millions buying overseas horses?? for the money he has spent he could nearly have purchased So You Think!!

 JP  emthdown - those sort of comments read pretty poorly IMO.


Jim Pike

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« 2010-Nov-10, 08:30 PM Reply #55 »
Lighten up Steve it wasn't meant to be offensive ;)

Jim Pike

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« 2010-Nov-10, 11:42 PM Reply #56 »
Just looking at the form for tomorrow and Lloyd has a couple in races 1/3 the horse in the first Excluded is on his 11th nom(not counting his one actual start) the one in the 3rd (Morley)has 13 previous Noms without starting in any of them!! it is mind bogling the number of times he nominates his horses and doesn't run, he could have bought So You Think with what he pays in Noms!!

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« 2010-Nov-11, 07:18 AM Reply #57 »
It doesnt cost anything to nominate in Victoria.

Steve M

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« 2010-Nov-11, 11:22 AM Reply #58 »
Lighten up Steve it wasn't meant to be offensive ;)

No probs JP - I misread it in that case   emthup

Throw in a smiley so I can work it out next time - smileys are great to show your meaning behind comments  :)

Jim Pike

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« 2010-Nov-11, 12:28 PM Reply #59 »
haven't owned horses for a few years(even then it was in NSW) didn't realise it was free to nominate?? that explains a lot, he must nominate 1000's of times over a 12 months period with the number of horses he has, is it the same in NSW cos he nommed about 5 for the Metrop for nil starters

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« 2010-Nov-12, 08:18 PM Reply #60 »
Except for Mourayan jim

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« 2013-Jan-10, 09:33 PM Reply #61 »
Interesting purchase from Lloyd


Nic Ashman
10/01/2013


Lloyd Williams purchases Arc runner

High profile owner Lloyd Williams has purchased another top-class European stayer that has defeated Dunaden and Red Cadeuax at set weights.

Sea Moon raced away with the Group II Harwicke Stakes (2400m) at Royal Ascot in June with Dunaden and Red Cadeaux finishing second and third respectively.

Following that victory, the son of Beat Hollow finished fifth in England's most prestigious staying race, the Group I King George VI And Queen Elizabeth Stakes, before an eighth placing in the Group I Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe at Longchamp.

The ex-Sir Michael Stoute-trained galloper has won five of his 10 starts over distances ranging between 1600 metres and 2400 metres.

Williams indicated the six-year-old could be aimed at the Group I Australian C up (2000m) in March.

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« 2013-Jan-11, 06:35 AM Reply #62 »
He was one of my cup hopes last year. Good to see him coming

Offline Gintara

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« 2013-Mar-30, 10:35 AM Reply #63 »
I see C'EST LA GUERRE resumes today for new connections after 700 odd days off.

Was sold for a little over $20k so one would assume they didn't think he'd make the track again considering he's a Melbourne Cup placegetter   :chin:

Has always looked better the Sydney way so interesting to see where the Hawkes team place him.

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« 2013-Mar-30, 12:30 PM Reply #64 »
Brisbane Cup should a very inteesting race this year.

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« 2013-Mar-30, 03:11 PM Reply #65 »
How did he go?

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« 2013-Mar-30, 03:51 PM Reply #66 »
Eased down from the 200 to finished tailed off   :/

Steve M

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« 2013-Jun-23, 12:25 PM Reply #67 »
Andrew Bensley.

'Lloyd Williams said he won't buy anymore European horses because of figures being asked. Says he paid too much for some ordinary horses.'

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« 2013-Jun-23, 01:26 PM Reply #68 »
Says he paid too much for some ordinary horses

Him and a thousand others.  :biggrin:

If Lloyd Williams can't afford one, what chance the rest of us?

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« 2013-Jun-24, 09:20 AM Reply #69 »
Him and a thousand others.

Agree . .

Provincial buyers pay too much for metro castoffs and then charge too much when they offload them to the boys from the bush

Funny thing about it is, if they happen to win a couple at the lower level, first thing the owners want to do  is to take them back to their previous level of failure

Rose coloured glasses keep the game going . . At all levels  :thumbsup:

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« 2013-Jun-24, 10:17 AM Reply #70 »
Andrew Bensley.

'Lloyd Williams said he won't buy anymore European horses because of figures being asked. Says he paid too much for some ordinary horses.'

Maybe he's choosing the wrong horses.

Or got them with the wrong trainer (cough cough).

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« 2013-Jun-24, 10:28 AM Reply #71 »


Or got them with the wrong trainer (cough cough).


How does one sack themselves though?  :shrug:

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« 2013-Jun-24, 10:55 AM Reply #72 »
Gin

That's the reason for the (cough cough).

He could but he won't.


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« 2013-Jun-24, 04:37 PM Reply #73 »
Williams has had 4 Melbourne Cup winners.

He paid $50,000 for Just A Dash who won in 81
$20,000 for What A Nuisance who won in 85
$222,000 for Efficient who won 2007

I don't know how much he paid for Green Moon but I do know he paid close to $500,000 for Enzeli around 13 years ago.

Seems he's got a fair point.

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« 2013-Jun-24, 04:47 PM Reply #74 »
Between Green Moon and Mourayan he must be fairly close to breaking even ?

He does a pretty good job training them.

That said I have little sympathy for him passing up the autumn riches with Green Moon and many of his other imports.


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