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Online JWesleyHarding

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« 2018-Oct-14, 12:00 PM Reply #200 »

My question is ... How is he allowed to race as Yucatan in Australia when there's a local 3yo currently racing with the same name ...... ran 7th at its first start at Morphettville on June 9th.  :chin:

A very good question.  emthup

Ask the Studbook

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« 2018-Oct-14, 01:25 PM Reply #201 »
The inferior gelding should be made to change his name. Not only that he should change it himself.


We are in agreement Auth.

No geldings in Derbys. No Group 1 classifications given out to handicaps.  More 2 and 3 year old black type set weights races, especially 2yo fillies.

Purist thought  :angel:

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« 2018-Oct-14, 04:04 PM Reply #202 »
How did we not pick up that he came through the path that Johannes Vermeer took before heading to Australia.  :chin:

Both had similar results  :shy:

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« 2018-Oct-19, 07:55 AM Reply #203 »
From Racenet

Analysis of Yucatan betting records expected to be finalised Friday

A Victorian stewards’ analysis of betting from bookmakers and Betfair in relation to Yucatan, the Lloyd Williams-owned stayer which was withdrawn from the Caulfield Cup on Monday evening, is expected to be finalised on Friday.

Stewards want to inspect betting records, which take several days to collect and analyse, before closing their look at Yucatan’s Caulfield Cup withdrawal.

Early on Monday it was announced that Yucatan would be running in the Caulfield Cup with Michael Walker booked to ride the horse and as a consequence the brilliant winner of last Saturday’s Herbert Power Stakes firmed to become outright favourite.

Bookies firmed the Aidan O'Brien-trained galloper into $4.50 favourite in all-in betting, but it was revealed on Monday night Yucatan would not be a starter despite there being no official announcement.

Victorian chief steward Robert Cram told Racenet on Wednesday that Williams and connections had “satisfied the rules” by the process they followed in taking Yucatan out of the Caulfield Cup.

Cram said all-in punters who did their cash on Yucatan had been left “a bit stranded’’ but said “that’s the nature of all-in betting.”


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« 2018-Oct-19, 01:45 PM Reply #204 »

Last year Williams junior told us that Almandin was going better than ever .... bit of a pattern developing here.


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« 2018-Oct-19, 06:15 PM Reply #205 »
So "they followed the rules" did they?

Usually these things don't come to light unless Betfair complains.

One possible scenario they are investigating is:

i) Yucatan announced as a starter in the Caulfield Cup
ii) Someone with the knowledge that the horse won't be running (probably a stable employee- doubt if Lloyd or Nick would need the spare cash) gets outside parties to lay the horse
iii) Horse is scratched or announced non runner
iv) With the benefit of hindsight Betfair notices the abnormal betting patterns and contacts RVL

Did someone mention integrity?

Be interested to see the outcome.