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« 2020-Feb-22, 04:17 PM Reply #1625 »
Touche,

A bit of fun but I do have the track conditions are vastly different to when posted.

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« 2020-Feb-22, 05:40 PM Reply #1626 »
Crystal Dreamer $10 place.



and that selection topped all the others in the Autumn Selection Competition.

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« 2020-Feb-25, 10:02 AM Reply #1627 »
I would be completely forgiving of  Hey Doc yesterday.......that was pretty firm ground.

He had a year off after pulling up badly on the piece of concrete RVL called a good track at Flemington in the spring of 2018.

He follows a bit of a pattern like many of Victorian's older gallopers who are jarred up.......just seen too many tracks like these.

Steward's vision not up but the big boy looked a bit erratic in the straight and didn't look that comfortable.
https://www.racing.com/news/2020-02-24/news-hey-doc

What can I say other than 'I told you so'

Hard to find the words to describe an industry that rides on the backs of their champions yet can't even provide them with a safe surface to gallop on.

Hey Doc having survived his near death experience at Flemington on Makybe Diva Stakes day 2018 gets his bones completely rattled once again on a so-called 'good' track at Caulfield.

This is an industry that tells us the tracks are prepared in the interest of horse welfare when it is obvious it's something else.
Is it because big punters want to bet on firm tracks or just track preservation?.......Wake up if it is.
Animal welfare will sink horse racing.

Can I suggest a road trip to Perth for the people who are really responsible for the presentation of Melbourne Metro tracks.
If the Perth track manager can produce a proper good track to race on in summer , then so can you........maybe bring back a core sample.

Boy you do have a problem when WA's leading jock describes the Caulfield  track as 'rock hard' and I'm not sure if he was even on the polished bit on the inside.

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« 2020-Feb-27, 10:18 AM Reply #1628 »
Race 7 - 4:10PM Kennedy Australian Guineas (1600 METRES)

Of $1,000,000.1st $600,000, 2nd $180,000, 3rd $90,000, 4th $45,000, 5th $25,000, 6th $20,000, 7th $20,000, 8th $20,000
Prize money contribution totalling 3% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1
Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim.
This race carries a SUPER VOBIS Nominators Bonus of $10,000 for qualified horses.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 x1112x1111 ALLIGATOR BLOOD David Vandyke Ryan Maloney 2 56.5kg
2 2x11251x35 DALASAN Leon Macdonald & Andrew Gluyas Jamie Kah 3 56.5kg
3 1x2517x11 ALABAMA EXPRESS Michael Moroney Michael Dee 6 56.5kg
4 71x1111x12 CATALYST (NZ) Clayton Chipperfield Damian Lane 4 56.5kg
5 1x21813x4 SOUL PATCH Ken Keys Craig Williams 1 56.5kg
6 32154x1 SUPERSTORM Grant & Alana Williams William Pike 7 56.5kg
7 12x3 CHENIER Anthony Freedman Damien Oliver 5 56.5kg
8 274 COMMODUS Mark Sues Ethan Brown 8 56.5kg

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« 2020-Feb-27, 06:22 PM Reply #1629 »
Alligator Blood vs. Catalyst.

A bit like Bonecrusher vs. Vo Rogue in the Aust. Cup in the mid eighties.

Soul Patch or a couple of others could "do a Dandy Andy" perhaps?

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« 2020-Feb-29, 09:50 AM Reply #1630 »
I'll be interested to how the Flemington track plays out today......not a lot of moisture added so I'll just say......safe travel.

 Melbourne racetracks a big issue after Caulfield And Sandown.

https://www.rsn.net.au/good-4-rule-has-created-bias-track-managers/?fbclid=IwAR2ZiPw5heY5jsatnomELuWRe2xrXC__bWBiYhTBlbZcuxAaV8ue1aPVEf0

Not a great state of affairs when the track managers blame the welfare policy for the track bias.


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« 2020-Mar-05, 12:35 AM Reply #1631 »
Race 6 - 3:25PM Seppelt Wines Newmarket Handicap (1200 METRES)

Of $1,250,000.1st $750,000, 2nd $225,000, 3rd $112,500, 4th $56,250, 5th $31,250, 6th $25,000, 7th $25,000, 8th $25,000
Prize money contribution totalling 3% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1
Handicap, Minimum Weight 50kg, Maidens at time of entry are ineligible, Weight Raised 1kg, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Hcp Rating
1 113011x2x1 GYTRASH Gordon Richards Ben Melham 2 57kg 111
2 100x1336x2 ZOUTORI Mathew Ellerton & Simon Zahra Damian Lane 8 55kg 107
3 110x4509x6 DESPATCH Tony & Calvin McEvoy Jamie Kah 6 54.5kg 106
4 1118x1110x THE INEVITABLE Scott Brunton Brett Prebble 13 54.5kg 106
5 1x121162x6 BIVOUAC James Cummings Glen Boss 7 54kg 110
6 13x1331x EXCEEDANCE Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Dwayne Dunn 11 54kg 110
7 41259x1117 HALVORSEN Robbie Griffiths Andrew Mallyon 9 53kg 97
8 918x923320 MYSTYKO (NZ) Trevor Rogers Dean Holland 1 53kg 93
9 52x41011x7 TOFANE (NZ) Michael Moroney Michael Dee 10 53kg 103
10 1272x229x0 TROPE Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Michael Poy(a) 5 53kg 98
11 422x1212x3 LOVING GABY Ciaron Maher & David Eustace Craig Williams 4 52.5kg 111
12 75x2114x32 BANQUO Danny O'Brien Dean Yendall 3 51kg 78
13 211x1133x4 LIBERTINI Anthony Cummings Jye McNeil 12 51kg 100

I potted Bivouac before the Oakleigh Plate but it wasn't a bad run given the weight (5.5 kg above the limit) and the fact it was too far back on a suspect track.

3 above the limit here.

If the Handicapper's ratings are worth anything then you'd be having something on Loving Gaby.

The Inevitable is an interesting runner. Exceedance rated the same as Bivouac and Gytrash is far worse off at the handicap but it was a fantastic win all the same last start.

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« 2020-Mar-05, 12:46 AM Reply #1632 »
Race 8 - 4:45PM TAB Australian Cup (2000 METRES)

Of $1,500,000.1st $900,000, 2nd $270,000, 3rd $135,000, 4th $67,500, 5th $37,500, 6th $30,000, 7th $30,000, 8th $30,000
Prize money contribution totalling 3% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Maidens at time of entry are ineligible, Apprentices cannot claim.


No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 36621x421x VOW AND DECLARE Danny O'Brien Craig Williams 10 59kg
2 1x42147x54 AVILIUS (GB) James Cummings Dwayne Dunn 9 59kg
3 0x10x870x7 SUZUKA DEVIOUS (JPN) Mitsuru Hashida Dean Yendall 8 59kg
4 x006380x45 HARLEM (GB) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Jamie Kah 2 59kg
5 Px58166x32 KINGS WILL DREAM (IRE) Chris Waller Jye McNeil 1 59kg
6 211x2161x4 REGAL POWER Grant & Alana Williams William Pike 12 59kg
7 6768256x41 FIFTY STARS (IRE) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig John Allen 13 59kg
8 1322x30x03 MIRAGE DANCER (GB) Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young Ben Melham 6 59kg
9 326441301x SOUTHERN FRANCE (IRE) Ciaron Maher & David Eustace Michael Dee 14 59kg
10 16621816x7 HUSH WRITER (JPN) Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Brad Rawiller 11 59kg
11 0328x277x6 VENICE BEACH (IRE) Danny O'Brien Fred W Kersley(a) 3 59kg
12 4083x100x8 CAPE OF GOOD HOPE (IRE) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Regan Bayliss 5 58.5kg
13 x2122240x9 CONSTANTINOPLE (IRE) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Glen Boss 4 58.5kg
14 x278822x11 MISS SISKA Grahame Begg Damian Lane 7 57kg

You could make an argument for a lot of these but mine goes on Kings Will Dream each way all day at the $6.50. Won the Turnbull 3rd up over the track and distance last time in and he looks to be going better than that.

Expecting a big run from last year's Melbourne Cup winner who is nommed for the QE2 so probably a short campaign.

I notice that the tracks are a Good 4 in Victoria at the moment so the hardness of the track comes into play and they don't seem to run on down the outside any more these days at Flemington so from barrier 1 hoping KWD  might get a bit of luck up on the inside of them.

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« 2020-Mar-05, 06:47 AM Reply #1633 »
Absolute disaster that Regal Power drew so wide. We all know what Pike will do so baring a fluke heís gonski :tears:

Kings will Dream is flying.

Iím convinced that Avilius was being tuned up last week for this race

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« 2020-Mar-05, 10:07 AM Reply #1634 »
Flemington has had a big dump of rain and is heavy at the moment.

https://www.rsn.net.au/flemington-randwick-to-be-wet-but-not-bottomless/?fbclid=IwAR1i5X2ON-9QacQWjf3y6NuCrhPHR7U0rPFkIPjd2yrobpbU5dX7ZAQ23Nk

Gytrash has suffered from that bone bruising so a soft track will suit this absolute gun sprinter.

Will be good to see Avilius on a softer surface as well.
 

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« 2020-Mar-06, 12:52 AM Reply #1635 »
Newmarket Hcp was first run in 1874 and won by Maid Of Avenel. She was a bit of a freak as she also won the 1874 Craven Plate in Sydney (10 furlongs = 2000m) and was placed 3rd in the 1863 Victoria Derby behind Lapidist.

Multiple Winners Of Newmarket Hcp

Aspen
        1880
        1881
Correct
        1960
        1961
Gothic
        1927
        1928
Razor Sharp
        1982
        1983
Redkirk Warrior
        2017
        2018


HOOFNOTE: The granddam of Maid Of Avenel was a mare called Tib Tacket (1857) which I find intriguing because if you swap around the second letters you get Tab Ticket - something they wouldn't have dreamed about back then......
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« 2020-Mar-06, 01:21 AM Reply #1636 »
The Australian Cup is 11 years older than the Newmarket and was first run in 1863 and won by Barwon.

He won the 1862 Victoria Derby as well as the 1863 VRC St Leger.

He also won a race in 1863 called the Ballarat Turf Club Champion Sweepstakes, which was a race run across Australia and NZ (not unlike the Inter-Dominion) and later morphed into the King's Plate, then the Queen's Plate which was run as a VRC race and ultimately I think this was the Queen's Cup which went from state to state - doesn't appear to be an active race any more.

Mormon won the 1864 Sweepstakes race in Wagga and had previously won the 1861 race in Hobart.

Harlem is attempting to become the first horse to win the historic race 3 times

Multiple Winners Of Australian Cup

Craftsman
        1965
        1966
Harlem
        2018
        2019
Ming Dynasty
        1978
        1980
Northerly
        2001
        2003
Vo Rogue
        1989
        1990
Welkin Prince
        1962
        1963
Woodman
        1865
        1866

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« 2020-Mar-06, 12:12 PM Reply #1637 »
Go Vo🥳🥳

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« 2020-Mar-07, 06:02 AM Reply #1638 »
Don't get the no hoper's $151 price about Venice Beach in The Australian Cup.
Has beaten some decent horses in the UK including Mirage Dancer where he had a peak rating of 113.
First time he has seen some cut in the track in this country and there was just enough in his run at Caulfield......his 1st for over a year.

Has to be some big questions about how Flemington will play today.
Over 60 mm of rain straight after Wednesday's silly and unnecessary meeting and the rail out 8m just spells trouble.....I hope not.

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« 2020-Mar-07, 03:54 PM Reply #1639 »
I have lost total confidence betting at Flemington.

Fence looks to be like glue in the straight today.

Fifty Stars gets a well deserved G1. Vow And Declare is nommed for the QE2 in Sydney but you'd have to think the Tancred would be a possibility. Would be hard to beat in either.

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« 2020-Mar-08, 12:27 PM Reply #1640 »
The Flemington track yesterday hardly had a 'Super Saturday' look about it.

The narrow strip presented had more of an off season mid-week look.
The early races  certainly had no fairness about it either and from what I saw the Racing.com boys don't call the obvious.

3 of the 4 Galileo's in The Australian Cup trifected the last 3 spots.......all tailed off.

Disappointing to see Venice Beach beaten on the corner and while the jock said "he needs more racing ", the steward's report suggests it might be a while before we see him again.
Joins a rather long list of ex-Coolmore gallopers with a very short Australian racing career.

Unless he can do a Wells......what happens to a Gr 3 winning 6 yr old staying bred stallion in this country?

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« 2020-Mar-28, 04:23 PM Reply #1641 »
Having a pretty good day. I think Iíll rove Strategic Demand in 5ne last

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« 2020-May-23, 05:46 PM Reply #1642 »
Great to see Udyta Clarke's high class sprinter Rich Charm go so well today.
Over 3 years since he has raced on a soft track.....the 1.5kg he gave to the winner was the difference between 1st and 2nd.
Diagnosed with the dreaded bone bruising after one encounter too many on the so called good 3 at Flemington, (concrete by another name) back in Sept 2018......it's been a long road back.

Racing needs these stories.......cheap horse..... battling trainer, who owns a good part of him, gets her once in a life time horse.....close to 900k now for her gutsy little champ.  emthup   emthup

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« 2020-May-23, 05:50 PM Reply #1643 »
Nem, it was good to see apart from him costing me the F4  :lol:

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« 2020-May-23, 05:56 PM Reply #1644 »
Wily ,I'm peed off I didn't have even a $1 quinella with the WA horse with the wet track breeding and wet track record.....paid huge!

Rich Charm is too good to leave out down the Flemington straight.....he has a great record there!
He is a little champ!

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« 2020-May-23, 06:26 PM Reply #1645 »
Nem, I stood the winner out in the F4, considered RC but just couldnít put him in. I guessed he was washed up.

Wrong😢

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« 2020-May-23, 11:37 PM Reply #1646 »
wily...

I mentioned in the last few days that good horses apparently out of form for a while are the key to the vault....

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« 2020-May-24, 10:36 AM Reply #1647 »
I know mate, your words were ringing in my ears but you have to draw the line somewhere

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« 2020-May-24, 10:47 AM Reply #1648 »
Wily,

Sitting through some flops is the ticket of admission.

Yes the question is how many you are prepared to sit through!

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