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Offline wily ole dog

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« 2019-Jan-26, 07:19 PM Reply #1575 »
What did it pay? I got the quaddy on the NSW tote and actually backed themwinners of the 4th & 5th  so I had all 6 :chin:
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« 2019-Jan-26, 07:28 PM Reply #1576 »
Wily I am not sure you want to know!

No one got it - not even the z man.

So assuming you got it for 50c doubling the jackpot means a dividend declaration $202,798.

Every time you missed the last spot but got the first 5 spots returned you $14,429.40 for 100% of that div

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ps Moonee Valley last night paid 90g with the 2 favs wining the last 2 races....
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« 2019-Jan-26, 07:47 PM Reply #1577 »
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Offline fours

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« 2019-Jan-26, 08:02 PM Reply #1578 »
Hmmm,

Plenty of arguments for Brazen to show a bit more - easy arguments being Collett booking who had 3 prior rides on the horse for 2 wins and 2 out of 5 wins 2nd up so obviously people did not have the the horse in their focus at all. Nothing wrong with prior ratings either.

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« 2019-Feb-08, 05:57 PM Reply #1579 »
Race 8 - 4:50PM Ladbrokes C.F. Orr Stakes (1400 METRES)

Of $500,000.1st $300,000, 2nd $90,000, 3rd $45,000, 4th $22,500, 5th $12,500, 6th $10,000, 7th $10,000, 8th $10,000
Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old and Upwards, Maidens at time of entry are ineligible, Apprentices cannot claim.

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Hcp Rating Wgt BM 110 Adv
1 0x332818x9 BRAVE SMASH (JPN) Kris Lees Michael Walker 7 59 113 59.5 0.5
2 x11x00x0x5 REDKIRK WARRIOR (GB) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Regan Bayliss 10 59 116 61 2
3 0x598x5132 FELL SWOOP Matthew Dale SCRATCHED




4 30x242439x KEMENTARI James Cummings James McDonald 2 59 110 58 -1
5 21x111x32x MATERIAL MAN Justin Warwick Ms Lucy Warwick 6 59 110 58 -1
6 714x32256x D’ARGENTO Chris Waller Kerrin McEvoy 1 59 107 56.5 -2.5
7 11x21314x3 LAND OF PLENTY Ciaron Maher & David Eustace Damian Lane 11 59 110 58 -1
8 38x713211x BEST OF DAYS (GB) James Cummings Craig Williams 4 59 108 57 -2
9 716243111x MOSS ’N’ DALE (NZ) Peter Gelagotis Jack Martin(a) 12 59 108 57 -2
10 93x5386412 SO SI BON David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Luke Nolen 15 59 98 52 -7
11 1x361221x7 MANUEL Tony McEvoy Luke Currie 3 59 95 50.5 -8.5
12 479741240x MASK OF TIME (IRE) Ciaron Maher & David Eustace Jordan Childs 5 59 97 51.5 -7.5
13 x316936420 HOLBIEN Steve Richards Patrick Moloney 16 59 86 46 -13
14 111x2211x6 FIFTY STARS (IRE) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Ben Allen(a) 9 58.5 98 52 -6.5
15 462x44415x SHILLELAGH (NZ) Chris Waller Ben Melham 14 57 110 56 -1
16 0x1415x111 WHISPERING BROOK Simon A Miller Mark Zahra 8 57 109 55.5 -1.5

Redkirk Warrior is the best in at the weights going by the handicapper's ratings followed by Brave Smash then all of Kementari, Material Man, Land Of Plenty and Shillelagh
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Offline wily ole dog

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« 2019-Feb-09, 06:56 AM Reply #1580 »
Geez PP, no mention of my best 3  :lol:
Thats the sort of good race it is.
Best of Days, D'argento or even Moss n Dale for me at the odds
I suspect best of days is massively underrated even by his own stable
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Offline Brian Mc

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« 2019-Feb-09, 07:41 AM Reply #1581 »
And to those nine horses surely one must add Whispering Brook
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« 2019-Feb-09, 04:00 PM Reply #1582 »
I thought after Yogi won the first we had a track that would be fair to backmarkers.

Every winner since has either led around the turn or been close to the lead  :sad:
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« 2019-Feb-09, 04:52 PM Reply #1583 »
Yes, you didn’t want to be back on straightening  :sad:
Wonder if it was tempo related :chin:
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« 2019-Feb-10, 01:22 PM Reply #1584 »
PP7,

Manuel was in worst at the weights on your table of the handicappers score by a very big margin of -8.5........

Have you thrown the handicap book out as it was a very good win.

Of course a fitter Kementari would have ran straight past him but that's too late for the day.

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« 2019-Feb-10, 02:06 PM Reply #1585 »
Best of Days was the run of the race. Especially given the Williams factor
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« 2019-Feb-11, 01:15 AM Reply #1586 »
Quote from: fours on 2019-Feb-10, 01:22  PM
PP7,

Manuel was in worst at the weights on your table of the handicappers score by a very big margin of -8.5........

Have you thrown the handicap book out as it was a very good win.

Of course a fitter Kementari would have ran straight past him but that's too late for the day.

Fours

My metrics are taken from the handicapper's benchmark rating not my own so I cannot throw anything out :)

Just something I like measuring i.e. what weight would they carry if it was a benchmark handicap and how much better/worse off are they because it is WFA.

The way they calculate the handicaps in a BM race using the BM rating is available on the Racing NSW web site.

The horse had a low benchmark rating because his best city effort prior to his Group 1 win was a 2nd place in a  Benchmark 96 race. And that is probably why he was such big odds.
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« 2019-Feb-13, 12:07 PM Reply #1587 »
Race 8 - 4:50PM Black Caviar Lightning (1000 METRES)

Of $750,000.1st $450,000, 2nd $135,000, 3rd $67,500, 4th $33,750, 5th $18,750, 6th $15,000, 7th $15,000, 8th $15,000

Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution GROUP 1

Standard Weight for Age

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 3121x1531x OSBORNE BULLS James Cummings Craig Williams 5 58.5kg
2 6x1211125x BATTLE HERO Chris Gangemi Jarrad Noske 7 58.5kg
3 2x020164x2 GLENALL Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Dwayne Dunn 6 58.5kg
4 2x139x372x IN HER TIME Kris Lees Corey Brown 1 56.5kg
5 820x370945 MISSROCK Robbie Laing
4 56.5kg
6 x222274x1x DIVINE QUALITY Robbie Griffiths Beau Mertens 8 56.5kg
7 1114x114x2 WRITTEN BY Grahame Begg Jordan Childs 11 55.5kg
8 11x1235x GRAFF Kris Lees Tommy Berry 3 55.5kg
9 13310x153x LEAN MEAN MACHINE Chris Waller James McDonald 10 55.5kg
10 113x21171x SUNLIGHT Tony McEvoy Luke Currie 9 53.5kg
11 12 JEDASTAR Lloyd Kennewell Chris Caserta(a) 2 44kg
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« 2019-Feb-13, 12:09 PM Reply #1588 »
No Redzel or Redkirk Warrior?

6 of the 11 runners haven't got a BM 100 rating.

Good on them for having a shot with the 2YO   emthup

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« 2019-Feb-13, 12:20 PM Reply #1589 »
Season Race Name Horse Trainer Jockey Weight Distance Time
2017/18 BLACK CAVIAR LIGHTNING Group 1 REDKIRK WARRIOR(GB) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig  Regan Bayliss  58.5kg  1000 m 0:56.33 
2016/17 BLACK CAVIAR LIGHTNING Group 1 TERRAVISTA Joseph Pride  Corey Brown  58.5kg  1000 m 0:57.26 
2015/16 BLACK CAVIAR LIGHTNING Group 1 CHAUTAUQUA Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes  Dwayne Dunn  58.5kg  1000 m 0:57.02 
2014/15 BLACK CAVIAR LIGHTNING Group 1 LANKAN RUPEE Mick Price  Craig Newitt  58.5kg  1000 m 0:56.29 
2013/14 BLACK CAVIAR LIGHTNING Group 1 SNITZERLAND Gerald Ryan  Brenton Avdulla  56.5kg  1000 m 0:57.16 
2012/13 BLACK CAVIAR LIGHTNING Group 1 BLACK CAVIAR Peter Moody  Luke Nolen  56.5kg  1000 m 0:55.42 
2011/12 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 BLACK CAVIAR Peter Moody  Luke Nolen  56.5kg  1000 m 0:55.53 
2010/11 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 BLACK CAVIAR Peter Moody  Luke Nolen  56.5kg  1000 m 0:57.20 
2009/10 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 NICCONI David Hayes  Damien Oliver  58.5kg  1000 m 0:57.12 
2008/09 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 SCENIC BLAST Daniel Morton  Steven Arnold  58.5kg  1000 m 0:56.94 
2007/08 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 APACHE CAT Greg Eurell  Corey Brown  58.5kg  1000 m 0:57.25 
2006/07 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 MISS ANDRETTI Lee Freedman  Craig Newitt  56kg  1000 m 0:57.22 
2005/06 LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 TAKEOVER TARGET Joe Janiak  Jay Ford  57.5kg  1000 m 0:56.80 
2004/05 TEAC LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry  Glen Boss  54.5kg  1000 m 0:57.37 
2003/04 TEAC LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 REGIMENTAL GAL Shaun Dwyer  Steven King  52kg  1000 m 0:57.02 
2002/03 TEAC LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 CHOISIR Paul Perry  Glen Boss  54.5kg  1000 m 0:56.63 
2001/02 LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 SPINNING HILL Guy Walter  Steven Arnold  55kg  1000 m 0:57.15 
2000/01 L'OREAL PARIS LIGHTNING STAKES Group 1 SPORTS John Hawkes  Darren Gauci  57.5kg  1000 m 0:57.02 
1999/00 LIGHTNING STKS Group 1 TESTA ROSSA Dean Lawson  Damien Oliver  54.5kg  1000 m 0:56.04 
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« 2019-Feb-23, 02:47 PM Reply #1590 »
Did anyone see what happened to Best of Days in the Futurity  :what:

Matty Hill didn't call it nor any mention of it and I've been back over the reply it's definitely not there  :shy:

Maybe stayed in the gates?  :chin: All clear has been given  :shrug:
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« 2019-Feb-23, 03:41 PM Reply #1591 »
Quote from: Gintara on 2019-Feb-23, 02:47  PM
Maybe stayed in the gates?  :chin: All clear has been given  :shrug:

It did.
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« 2019-Jun-08, 10:19 AM Reply #1592 »
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« 2019-Jun-08, 02:33 PM Reply #1593 »
Iconoclasm for mine Wily, massive run in Adelaide, dropping back in grade & loves Flemington
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« 2019-Jul-06, 05:34 PM Reply #1594 »
Once again the Melbourne stewards come up with a clanger  emthdown

Malibu Style wins races seven but replays show the gate had opened early. Seems stewards had decided because the horse missed the jump it's ok  :o What happens if it had jumped with the field? jumps early?

Simple fact is gate opened early - it should be declared a non runner.

What happened after the gates opening should bare no effect on the decision and is irrelevant.

Shocking decision IMHO   emthdown
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