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Offline nemisis

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« 2021-Oct-25, 07:14 AM Reply #150 »
Who wrote that Peter?

Very sad the SMH....sold out it's soul to "Nine".

Would almost guarantee the author of that in some way would be getting paid by Sky......therefore under" the nothing negative RNSW rule"


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« 2021-Oct-25, 07:39 AM Reply #151 »


.................... it is an assessment that I would expect even casual observers to share about Melbourne racing.

How was the worlds best allowed to become of questionable quality compromised by inflated fields.

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« 2021-Oct-25, 08:07 AM Reply #152 »
You didn't tell me the author, Peter.

It is a correct assessment but there is just not enough really good horses to go around.
What happened to the Moir is a by-product of what is happening in NSW.

Comments about Victorian races from paid up NSW "journalists" or promoters should be ignored.
Tune into the dodgy Hong Kong commission agent Richie for more proof tomorrow

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« 2021-Nov-14, 08:38 PM Reply #153 »

Miles going nowhere ------  a prophetic portent


Racing Victoria boss Giles Thompson has kept a low profile this spring, his fifth and arguably busiest carnival in the chief executive’s seat.

It wasn’t intentional; those involved in Racing Victoria’s COVID-19 planning decided their honcho wouldn’t be considered an essential worker in the racing bubble.



https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/ego-and-self-interest-holding-back-national-whip-reform-in-racing-20211110-p597td.html

How did this happen?

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« 2022-Jan-14, 05:03 PM Reply #154 »

TWO-MONTHS IS A LONG TIME IN RACING


Racing Victoria CEO Giles Thompson resigns

Mr Thompson will remain in the CEO role until June 30 to ensure a smooth transition to his successor.

“With the customer at the centre of everything we do, we have been able to drive great outcomes, from the exceptional quality of our racing program, participants and athletes, to our world class infrastructure and facilities.


Obviously a very humble and perceptive man.


Miles going nowhere ------  a prophetic portent

Racing Victoria boss Giles Thompson has kept a low profile this spring, his fifth and arguably busiest carnival in the chief executive’s seat.

It wasn’t intentional; those involved in Racing Victoria’s COVID-19 planning decided their honcho wouldn’t be considered an essential worker in the racing bubble.


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/ego-and-self-interest-holding-back-national-whip-reform-in-racing-20211110-p597td.html

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« 2022-Jan-14, 05:05 PM Reply #155 »


Does RVL still have contact details for Rob Hines?


Racing Victoria will begin the search immediately for a new CEO after the resignation on Friday of the current Chief Executive Giles Thompson.

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« 2022-Jan-14, 08:43 PM Reply #156 »
My thinking is that they need someone who (1) has at least some innovation, (2) some marketing skills, (3) some interest in racing outside the carnivals, (4) some interest outside the Melbourne establishment, and (5) some personality. In other words, a new approach …

It would be good if the current CEO was not on the selection committee. It might involve a decision.

It would be smart to outsource the selection process to some consultants - expensive but they would give you the result you ask for.

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« 2022-Jan-14, 09:25 PM Reply #157 »


The RVL Board is the problem


RVL board members, briefed on Mondays about how did that happen again on Saturday --  let it happen again next Saturday.

That is the problem.

Miles was only delivering, week in and week out, what the RVL Board so clearly wanted.

Miles was not, is not, responsible for the relegation of Saturday racing in Melbourne from best to 'equal last' with the lesser states.

............... how could the 'worlds best' have been relegated to the prevailing rubbish.

 

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« 2022-Jan-15, 07:31 AM Reply #158 »
Giles Thompson always struck me as an intelligent man.
Certainly intelligent enough to realise it will only be a strong National response to confront the major welfare problems that are sinking horse racing.

When Giles made some recent comments about how bad the whipping of racehorses looks, his NSW counterpart says "whips don't hurt, the public just need educating".
Yet there is video around of V'Landys warning a group of breeders about why welfare issues such as whipping will destroy racing.

When the Recent Welfare initiatives were published Giles looked to embrace the report.
RNSW release a statement suggesting as "world leaders" in the re-homing of racehorses and as large land owners they will be going their own way.
How very embarrassing for RNSW that one submission actually stated that Team Thoroughbred NSW rehome about 100-150 horses per year....how pathetic!

All the time the go-between in negotiations is a a large scale NSW commercial breeder of thorougbreds...it's like a comedy script, yet it isn't funny!

Giles is getting out because he knows racing's survival chances now are zero.
He is leaving with his credibility intact.

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« 2022-Jan-21, 06:17 AM Reply #159 »
Interesting the history of Giles Thompson, CEO of Racing Victoria Limited.

Qualified as a chartered accountant in London with Deloitte & Touche, then worked at senior executive level for the Financial Times Group in the London, New York and Hong Kong.

Moved to Australia in 2004 and worked at APN Regional Newspapers in Queensland.

Relocated to Melbourne to take up a start-up role with Betfair Australia as CFO. 

Nine years at Betfair, the last three as CEO provided him great insight and experience into wagering and racing. 

He joined Racing Victoria in 2015 as CFO and was appointed to his current role as CEO of Racing Victoria in April 2017.

His major contribution to horse race wagering has been:

Increase Turnover Tax so that online bookmakers are required to contribute more to racing and Introduce the Point Of Consumption Tax so that Racing, TABCORP and the State Goverment share the profits made from these taxes.
Allow Corporate Bookmakers free rein to ban or restrict winning punters.
Create a Wagering Environment where these taxes have resulted in higher market percentages.
Actively change the wagering model, so that the main driver for horse race wagering is not profit via turnover, but now guaranteed profit via taxes.
Create a wagering environment where PUNTERS are now expected to fund racing and expected to lose and not win.

Of more interest, given his resignation, is what role he is planning to take on in his next position, after July 1st.

Would he be a nice fit for a major media operator looking to transition into horse race wagering?




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« 2022-Jan-21, 11:54 AM Reply #160 »


Giles is getting out because he knows racing's survival chances now are zero.
He is leaving with his credibility intact.

He struck me as someone too quick to appease the protagonists instead of standing up for the sport he was running.

There's a big difference between managing reform and giving into people intent on destroying the existence of what you manage.

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« 2022-Jan-28, 08:26 PM Reply #161 »

Miles from nowhere

................. the very first time he 'said something',  as CEO of RVL,  ............. I said 'next please'.

RVL need Rob Hines back in the CEO role to reclaim its 'worlds best' status.

RVL does not want to be 'among the best' ......... only milking its way to 'among the worst'.

The demise of RVL is a national tragedy.

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« 2022-Feb-03, 02:48 PM Reply #162 »
The Victorian Racing Tribunal have taken a sledgehammer to Bryce Stanaway.
3 years......what absolute bully boys.

All the cheating and doping that goes on everyday, in front of our eyes  and yet Bryce Stanaway has been declared racing's villain.
Something is seriously wrong with horse racing.

The Victorian Racing Tribunal disqualified trainer Bryce Stanaway for three years on Thursday in relation to a series of misconduct charges.

Stanaway had previously been found guilty of eight charges relating to an incident involving his injured horse Moorabool at the Bendigo races in October 2020 and then three days later at his stables at Torquay.

The charges relate to the manner in which the trainer spoke to stewards, as well as a raceday vet and a barrier attendant, although Stanaway maintains his actions were motivated by a desire to ensure the welfare of his horse.

At Thursday’s penalty hearing, the Tribunal tabled written submissions from both parties and heard short statements from the legal counsel for both Stanaway and Racing Victoria.

Justin Hooper, acting for the stewards, said Stanaway should serve at least a five year disqualification – three years for the charges relating to the raceday incident and a further two years for the charges relating to his conduct at his stables.

“The stewards submit that the offending is so serious that Mr Stanaway should serve no less than a three year disqualification for his conduct at that race meeting, in respect of each of those charges,” Hooper said.

“The stewards submit that the offending is s serious that Mr Stanaway should serve a two year disqualification for the conduct at his stables.

“Those periods should be served cumulatively for the reasons set out in the submissions, they relate to separate incidents and separate conduct.

“Ultimately the stewards submit that the Tribunal should disqualify Mr Stanaway for at least five years.

“Mr Stanaway, as an experienced trainer of that length of time (40 years), should’ve had a very good understanding of his privileges and responsibilities as a licensed trainer.

“Mr Stanaway should know better.

“There is no reliable evidence before this Tribunal that this manner of explosive conduct and inability to listen to those in authority will not happen again.”

Stanaway was represented by the former Chair of Racing Australia, Frances Nelson QC, who urged the Tribunal to hand down a penalty “proportionate to the circumstances of the trainer”.

She pointed to Stanaway’s clean record during his lengthy career.

The three-person Tribunal, headed by John Bowman, is expected to release a detailed summary of the penalty including the reasons for the decision in the coming days.
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« 2022-Feb-03, 04:19 PM Reply #163 »
Be interesting to read the full transcript as on face value, 3 years for 'conduct' seems excessive  :chin:

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« 2022-Feb-17, 09:49 AM Reply #164 »
More news filtering through about Caulfield racecourse's short term future and the renovations:

From Racing.com's Paul Tatnell ..

Caulfield racecourse will be shut for 6 months from late November as part of significant works to the club's track. Sandown, with an uncertain longterm future, will receive up to 10 extra meetings including the Blue Diamond


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« 2022-Feb-17, 01:41 PM Reply #165 »
I see you have corrected the spelling of “receive”. :beer:

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« 2022-Feb-17, 02:59 PM Reply #166 »
I see you have corrected the spelling of “receive”. :beer:

lol  yes, I did. JWH,

I wasn't sure whether it should be long term or longterm. He had it as one word, while I always go with the 2 words. Would do you think?

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« 2022-Feb-17, 03:23 PM Reply #167 »
I’m no expert but 2 seems to do it for me .

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« 2022-Feb-17, 03:35 PM Reply #168 »
  emthup

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« 2022-Mar-05, 07:59 AM Reply #169 »
From the letters page in the Melbourne Age Fri Mar 4 2022.

"Racing Victoria says it has given up trying to get into schools to promote the sport to children (The Age, 2/3). ….. Would Racing Victoria be happy to line up in schools with drug dealers keen to introduce students to their wares? Both drugs and racing and their related activities have ruined lives and families. Besides, I doubt that use of "wokenism among parents" by Racing Victoria's chief executive enhances the argument." 

The VRC executive sound a bit like the Melbourne City Council and the Property Council demanding Melbourne office workers to get back to their desks because they know what's good for them.

Democracy is a pain isn't it.

Cheers

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« 2022-Mar-05, 09:43 AM Reply #170 »
Whoever wrote that letter is a tosser

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« 2022-Mar-14, 06:03 PM Reply #171 »
Here is another interesting twist on the Newmarket over the weekend. Team riding is being investigated. Newitt is the chump who went across the field and if he did not, I would say Artorius would have won. However hindsight is good for everyone.   :lol:

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/racing-victorias-chief-steward-robert-cram-to-ask-jockey-patrick-moloney-to-clarify-newmarket-handicap-comments-20220314

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« 2022-Mar-14, 06:59 PM Reply #172 »
In fairness to Craig Newitt Jeunes, the Artorius steer was the result of a  pre-organised plan by the horse's connections.

They wanted to be out there with the "faster horses'....according to Newitt..

While I want to believe Artorius may have won, the Kiwi mare Levante's finish was just as good...maybe a bit better!
She may be the unlucky one.

Just have to say the Kiwi sprinters were completely under estimated......I did watch their replays but my love affair with Artorius was too strong.
A Kiwi mate of mine was giving them a very good plug.

What a great result for M Moroney and P Moloney....well done to them.
Team riding?????....I can't see it.

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« 2022-Mar-14, 07:54 PM Reply #173 »

RVL is the problem -- in fairness to everyone, things need to change.


.................... making excuses for 'tears I cry' race outcomes in Melbourne, no longer cuts the ice.

On the contrary, RVL policies are deliberatiely conducive to 'rough results' ............... and rough treatment of most punters.

Has anyone at RVL made contact with Rob Hines?

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« 2022-Mar-14, 08:36 PM Reply #174 »
In fairness to Craig Newitt Jeunes, the Artorius steer was the result of a  pre-organised plan by the horse's connections.

They wanted to be out there with the "faster horses'....according to Newitt..

While I want to believe Artorius may have won, the Kiwi mare Levante's finish was just as good...maybe a bit better!
She may be the unlucky one.

Just have to say the Kiwi sprinters were completely under estimated......I did watch their replays but my love affair with Artorius was too strong.
A Kiwi mate of mine was giving them a very good plug.

What a great result for M Moroney and P Moloney....well done to them.
Team riding?????....I can't see it.

I will apologise to Newitt if he followed the riding instructions as nothing much he could do without backfiring on him.

The interesting thing about the team riding investigation is if a conversation or two did occur, what will be the outcome? Otherwise it will fizzle out.


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