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Offline el zoro

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« 2009-Aug-10, 11:22 PM Reply #75 »
Just watched a replay where Patillo was clear on Monashee Dancer last Sat & looked home but stopped in last 50m to get nailed on the line. Patillo never used whip in last 100m  :o when looked like he should have. Obviously getting fined worked.   :lol:    :lol:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 07:52 AM Reply #76 »
Just watched a replay where Patillo was clear on Monashee Dancer last Sat & looked home but stopped in last 50m to get nailed on the line. Patillo never used whip in last 100m  :o when looked like he should have. Obviously getting fined worked.    :lol:      :lol:  

Yeh i seen that race Zoro...And thought to myself ...gee there got you  :censored: ed... :(.... :censored: ing stupid whip rules... :no: :no:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 09:08 AM Reply #77 »
This rule is going to cause no end of problems.
It has to be whip or no whip, no in between

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« 2009-Aug-11, 10:40 AM Reply #78 »
Just watched a replay where Patillo was clear on Monashee Dancer last Sat & looked home but stopped in last 50m to get nailed on the line. Patillo never used whip in last 100m  :o when looked like he should have. Obviously getting fined worked.    :lol:      :lol:  


the rule had nothing to do with him not using the whip,he thought he was home,simple as that

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« 2009-Aug-11, 10:45 AM Reply #79 »
Yep, thought he was home at the 200m, knew he was in trouble at the 100m.
He's too good a jock to not realise horse was starting to paddle.

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« 2009-Aug-11, 10:48 AM Reply #80 »
maybe a look over his left shoulder wouldn't have hurt

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« 2009-Aug-11, 10:50 AM Reply #81 »
maybe a look over his left shoulder wouldn't have hurt

To make sure the one running him down was the one he backed?   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 10:59 AM Reply #82 »
maybe a look over his left shoulder wouldn't have hurt

Is that what you do judgey when your taking it up the arse....  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:00 AM Reply #83 »
maybe a look over his left shoulder wouldn't have hurt

This is The Problem with these stupid rules, How often is a Finish going to be
debatable,  this would of won if he hit it etc, It IS a Nightmare,
What i don't understand is, A jOCK IS ALLOWED TO backhand A hORSE
EVERY STRIDE, so Why are the jocks not Backhandering them, That way they
can Wop em every stride instead of every 2nd etc, They would hit them at least twice as much.
Im Tipping U will see Them all Producing the Backhand :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:
As a Punter was quoted 'I WANT THE DEVO bACK"

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:03 AM Reply #84 »
He doesn't need to look over his shoulder to see how they're going, he knows they're running him down. Probably felt the breath on the back of his neck.   :lol:
 

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:04 AM Reply #85 »
 Bring on Honk kong Racing i say, Gee it will be a great sight watching
Beadman WOP the fur of one you have backed, OHH like the old days,
Wop em DAzza Wop em :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:06 AM Reply #86 »
This whole thing is just soooo stupid its unbelievable. They cant raise the whips above their shoulder, cant hit em more than three times in consecutive times, can hit em a certain amount of times before the 200m... Absolute joke. This outrages me so much.

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:12 AM Reply #87 »
This whole thing is just soooo stupid its unbelievable. They cant raise the whips above their shoulder, cant hit em more than three times in consecutive times, can hit em a certain amount of times before the 200m... Absolute joke. This outrages me so much.
But the Real Stupidity is they can Backhander them every Stride, it is the same bloody thing.
So hopefully the jocks will start to do this more often, then we can get back to some
normality

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:17 AM Reply #88 »
total ban of the whip i say

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:45 AM Reply #89 »
I'm adamant it was the difference in one of mine getting up on the weekend - Vandalo. Bloke that needs some motivation to get going, just missed.  :rant:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:46 AM Reply #90 »
total ban of the whip i say
   :fishing:hOORAY  :whip: :whip:i Wondered how long it would take to get you
Judgey, as i Know you are no Fan of the old Fashioned "WOP EM'
like yours truly   :biggrin:  

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:53 AM Reply #91 »
total ban of the whip i say



it really needed to be left the way it was or taken away totaly as i cant really see a middle ground.  :what:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:56 AM Reply #92 »


it really needed to be left the way it was or taken away totaly as i cant really see a middle ground.  :what:
I agree, IT is like watchn Barrier Trials, I wonder why Honkers don't have any Pressure
regarding there Whip use etc, & if ever they will Change

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« 2009-Aug-11, 11:59 AM Reply #93 »
  :lol:  BW,fishing bad today,not a fan of over use,but in a head and head struggle,its fair enough,its when they're beaten and being cut in half,is what i've never liked. overcook a horse early,and you can hit him with a shotgun,it won't help.
look at c.newitt,hes the most whip happy going around today,and what was his flaw as a rider?going to soon,now that hes restricted to how many times he can hit it,i think it might be a good thing for him,he will have to concentrate more on his timing

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« 2009-Aug-11, 12:02 PM Reply #94 »
I agree, IT is like watchn Barrier Trials, I wonder why Honkers don't have any Pressure
regarding there Whip use etc, & if ever they will Change

Hong Kong is not exactly a free country is it, You are not allowed to protest in any manner ?

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« 2009-Aug-11, 12:04 PM Reply #95 »
Hong Kong is not exactly a free country is it, You are not allowed to protest in any manner ?


or tip for profit   :lol:

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« 2009-Aug-11, 12:06 PM Reply #96 »
Yeh Spot on Mate, i hate what Libby Hopwood did on SAT, she was
like 4-5 in front inside the 200, She has a look then gives the
horse 2 or 3 With the Whip, Stewards Blasted her,

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« 2009-Aug-11, 12:10 PM Reply #97 »

or tip for profit     :lol:   
   I wonder if we will see Munce on an episode of "Banged up Abroad"
ON Nat Geo Chanel    :lol:   
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« 2009-Aug-11, 12:11 PM Reply #98 »
  :lol:     :lol:   I wonder if we will see Munce on an episode of "Banged up Abroad"
ON Nat Geo Chanel    :lol:     :lol:     :lol:  
 :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:


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« 2009-Aug-11, 02:29 PM Reply #99 »
TEN days after its introduction, the whip rule is already embroiled in controversy.

Brad Rawiller and Dale Smith, the first jockeys suspended and fined for breaching the new standards, have both appealed to the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board.

Rawiller and Smith have appealed against the severity of their penalties. Both were suspended for four meetings and docked their riding fee and winning percentage.

Rawiller's winning ride on Forever Fight at Cranbourne on Sunday drew the ire of stewards.

He was found guilty of hitting the horse eight times in consecutive strides in the final 200m, five times more than is allowed.

Smith was found guilty of using the whip in 14 consecutive strides in the final 200m when he won on Betty's Belle at Sale on Thursday.

Both Rawiller and Smith pleaded guilty to breaking the new rules but, according to Victorian Jockeys' Association chief executive Des O'Keeffe, were shocked by the penalty.

News of Rawiller and Smith's appeals came as South Australian apprentice Lauren Stojakovic yesterday became the third jockey to incur the wrath of stewards.

Stojakovic's jubilation at winning on Slippery Madam at Swan Hill was soured when stewards found her guilty of using the whip 11 times before the last 200m, six times more than allowed under the rules that came into operation on August 1.

Stojakovic was suspended for four days, fined her riding fee, $164, and lost her winning percentage, $409.

The VJA, which met yesterday afternoon, endorsed the jockeys' decision to appeal.

O'Keeffe, who described the penalties as "inappropriate and too severe" said he would speak to Stojakovic to gauge if she planned to appeal.

O'Keeffe said it would be up to the RADB to determine the appropriate penalty.

"We're not nominating what is fair and reasonable, that's for the RAD board. All we're saying that the penalties that have been imposed are unreasonable," he said.

Rawiller, a VJA director, attended yesterday's scheduled VJA meeting. Smith was invited to attend.

Stewards have cracked down on whip use in recent days.

Dean Yendell, Ben Melham and Wayne Hokai were reprimanded for hitting their horses for one more stride than allowed at Cranbourne and Coleraine on Sunday.

Dwayne Dunn received his second reprimand at Flemington on Saturday for raising his whip above shoulder height - taboo under the new rules - while Kelvin Sanderson received a similar reprimand at Swan Hill yesterday.

The controversial whip rules prevent jockeys hitting a horse more than five times before the last 200m and not in three or more consecutive strides in the final 200m.

heraldsun


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