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Offline ACER

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« 2016-May-22, 11:42 PM Reply #50 »
So you can't actually elaborate on why Mallyon's rides were so bad yesterday?
And while you are at it what did McDonald do as well? Do you ever read stewards reports?

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« 2017-Mar-12, 10:17 AM Reply #51 »
I must give Sky Racing credit for today's Bred To Win.
Worth watching.

The Sir Patrick Hogan segment in which he explains why he wanted Tavistock was excellent. 
Service fee started at $5,000 and is now $65,000 +GST.

Can't think of any son's of Montjeu  who stand here on a commercial basis
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« 2017-Mar-13, 06:21 PM Reply #52 »
Praise one day but Sky Central are the pits.

Cross to the Matrice Stakes in Adelaide today 75 secs. before race time.
No mounting yard and with a  Quaddie pool of 77k gets treated like the poor relation.

The great class 1 from  Queanbeyan that followed gets some mounting yard.....14k quaddie pool.

Fast forward to the Adelaide Cup.
Not even sure if the last horse in the cup had crossed the line before it's back to Queanbeyan for the great benchmark 55.
Can forgive you a bit for the wrong numbers going up in the cup, but your treatment of Adelaide is pathetic.

Racing Central cannot handle 4 race meetings and you know that.
To keep putting NSW provincial meetings ahead of Metropolitan races is unforgivable.

South Australia do yourself a favour and  take the 10 minutes that is available on Racing.com.
Rid yourself of these bastards.
 
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« 2017-Mar-14, 06:13 AM Reply #53 »
True I watched the Adelaide Cup and after the winner crossed the line Sky crossing to the NSW meeting was a joke. I am sure Racing. Com can cope with those SA meetings

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« 2017-Mar-14, 09:08 AM Reply #54 »
Just caught Adam Hamilton's explanation on RSN or rather lack of it.
Talk about teflon and nothing sticking.

Sky Central had 4 meetings yesterday with 35 minutes between each race.
That's roughly 8 minutes for each venue....sounds pretty simple doesn't it?

Problem is the Group 2 Adelaide Cup is 2 miles and takes 3 and a half minutes to run,
Add to that 20 horses to be loaded there is every chance they will run overtime.
The TAB's big earner yesterday was the cup, 150k in the win pool in NSW, not to mention the all in's and fixed odds.
The all important benchmark 55 from Queanbeyan had a win pool of 15k.

 
Sky Central's so called "showcasing the thoroughbred' has no meaning.

Said it a hundred times before  but if Racing.com hadn't come along, I'd be gone.
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« 2017-Mar-14, 09:14 AM Reply #55 »
Why is crossing to an upcoming race after another has completed a joke?

Who pays for this coverage? Have you asked yourselves that question?

If Racing SA want to go with racing.com that is their prerogative.

But in amongst the passionate claims of "unfair treatment" and the urgings of people to stick it to the bastards, have you guys thought this through?

If Racing SA sign with racing.com and retain their exclusive parimutuel wagering agreement with Tatts, why would TABCorp even bother covering SA racing?

In fact, when the "place of consumption tax" comes in on July 1 for SA racing, the corporates have already said they will cease coverage.

And when the only place you can watch SA racing will be on racing.com, and the only outlet you can bet on it is with Tatts  or Crownbet (with something like a 40%+ takeout), and the revenues drop off a cliff, who you gonna blame then?

I'll bookmark this thread so we can have a laugh together when the blame is apportioned to other parties if all this happens  :chin:

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« 2017-Mar-14, 09:34 AM Reply #56 »
Agree with you PP. Who is interested in the banter of some ex second rate jockey before or after a race. It is like the padding before and after football matches (any code). It is total nonsense. The game starts when the siren sounds and finishes when it sounds again.
Nothing else matters. Same with Racing .When they leave the barriers that's when I start watching. I finish watching when they hit the line. I am certainly not interested in the anchor man babbling on congratulating "Lib" or "Tone" finding a 6/4 winner. Who cares?
By the way why do all these ex second rate jockeys who were meant not to bet suddenly become "form assessors" when they head through the front gates of Sky Channel ? R Dufficy excepted.

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« 2017-Mar-14, 10:23 AM Reply #57 »
It is very obvious that neither of you were watching Sky Central and it's got nothing to do with "talking heads" Gunbower
I'm not sure the cup had actually been completed when they crossed.
Imagine if it was a triple dead heat, talk about in limbo.

The cup was very exciting for me because almost all my punting budget was on the winner.
A couple of small exotics and all good.
TAB actually put up second as number 6 not 16, so wasn't sure what was going on because, we had gone to some provincial  benchmark 55 with 15k in the pool.

The Adelaide cup was clearly the race of the day and the only race I was interested in.
If Sky Central aren't going to treat it with respect, why put it on Central?

If it was on Sky 1 or 2 it would be just typical, run of the mill stuff.


 

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« 2017-Mar-14, 10:34 AM Reply #58 »
Why is crossing to an upcoming race after another has completed a joke?

Who pays for this coverage? Have you asked yourselves that question?

If Racing SA want to go with racing.com that is their prerogative.

But in amongst the passionate claims of "unfair treatment" and the urgings of people to stick it to the bastards, have you guys thought this through?

If Racing SA sign with racing.com and retain their exclusive parimutuel wagering agreement with Tatts, why would TABCorp even bother covering SA racing?

In fact, when the "place of consumption tax" comes in on July 1 for SA racing, the corporates have already said they will cease coverage.

And when the only place you can watch SA racing will be on racing.com, and the only outlet you can bet on it is with Tatts  or Crownbet (with something like a 40%+ takeout), and the revenues drop off a cliff, who you gonna blame then?

I'll bookmark this thread so we can have a laugh together when the blame is apportioned to other parties if all this happens  :chin:


Why do you have to constantly defend NSW ?

There was absolutely no excuse for the garbage from yesterday.




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« 2017-Mar-14, 10:36 AM Reply #59 »
At least Sky Central are covering Cheltenham tonight.


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« 2017-Mar-14, 11:38 AM Reply #60 »
Yes it was a thrilling race the Adelaide Cup. Mostly made up of the batch that goes around in those marathons at the Valley on Friday nights plus a few greybeards from South Australia  and some Oakbank triallists.

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« 2017-Mar-14, 01:22 PM Reply #61 »
Yes it was a thrilling race the Adelaide Cup. Mostly made up of the batch that goes around in those marathons at the Valley on Friday nights plus a few greybeards from South Australia  and some Oakbank triallists.
Are you some sort of thrill measurer Dean?

I'm sure everybody on and associated with Annus Mirabilis would have been thrilled, because I was.

Not sure if your knock of the race includes the winner, but if  you can't recognise that it was a decent sort of staying performance, maybe a trip to optometrist for you.

 Might be coming to Sydney for the cup.

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« 2017-Mar-14, 02:18 PM Reply #62 »
Yes super race Nemisis, Must acknowledge where I am wrong. You remember when Prince of Penzance won the Cup and the whole World jumped up an down about how slowly they ran it. This bloke only went 7 lengths slower. The best thing to say about the winner is that new trainer, without all the bells and whistles of the previous establishment has improved it out of sight. And let me say I am very happy for yours and their success. But from a form point of view have a look at the opposition. The runner ups best win is a benchmark 90.How about some of the others ? Puccini .Has won the best races of anything in the Race. Alas a light of other days and took 54 starts for them to test him as two miler and realize he isn't. De Little Engine-perfectly named. Honey Steel's Gold , previous win the Marong Cup. Mujadale-rising 10. Exalted Lightning- Career highlight Benchmark 64 at Strathalbyn and still beat nearly half the field home. Kawabata- I had a nice win on him in a benchmark 70 the other day at the Bool, should have been reserved for another one. Mighty Maher- finished 8 lengths behind Kawabata in the same race. Career highlight is a combined Gawler maiden/Class 1 success. Chestnut Charlie-best win in a Benchmark 82, never won beyond 2040. Anurada-stylish Benchmark 60 win some runs ago. Tunes-getting giddy going around. Surprised they missed the Tasmanian Cups with him, hasn't missed anything else. And  what a about Like A Carousel . Has managed 2 career wins, the last of them back in 2014. And lastly Lord Von Percy, another import to our shores who is unsurprisingly a maiden in this Continent . Last win 2014. As you can see it was a race chockfull of class. Nemisis mark down May 20 in your Calendar. That is the day they run another of these "Jumpers Flats". It goes under the name these days of the Andrew Ramsden Stakes. Can't wait.

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« 2017-Mar-14, 02:31 PM Reply #63 »
SKY pushed their false marketing hype down our throats about the amazing coverage that SKY 528 would bring to Thoroughbred racing.

Read their their hype below.

"Sky Thoroughbred Central (Channel 528) is the superior thoroughbred racing channel, showcasing the best thoroughbred racing action from Australia and around the world with in-depth analysis, mounting yard and experts comments".

"Showcasing the thoroughbred racing action".

Please give me a break. Where were the "in-depth analysis, mounting yard and experts comments" from the Adelaide Cup meeting yesterday?

So a lowly Monday Queanbeyan meeting and a "slow coach" meeting from Eagle Farm's ploughed paddock both received mounting yard comments and post race interviews whilst the main meeting in Australia yesterday received all but zip from the ever urging SKY channel mob.

Why couldn't either Queanbeyan or Eagle Farm been pushed to SKY 526 and given Morphettville the coverage they deserved?

The argument regarding the class of the Adelaide Cup didn't deserve a better coverage is nonsense.

You only have to look at the so called majors on the Eastern seaboard to realise that not ever year will the races have Champions or future Champion contesting. Some years are classics and some years are far from it. Need I remind everyone that last weeks Newmarket was a very average field to say the least. Next year, who knows it could be the best for the last 20 years.

I rest my case regarding SKY as they have only one agenda and that is TAB turnover that includes constant urging from their so called experts.

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« 2017-Mar-14, 03:43 PM Reply #64 »

Why do you have to constantly defend NSW ?

There was absolutely no excuse for the garbage from yesterday.
Where in that post am I "defending" NSW??? (groan). As a counterpoint in discussions this is desperation when you have nothing else to argue

If anything I am trying to defend South Australia from the emotive uninformed statements that could see it become the backwater of Australian racing.

I hope the new boss doesn't listen to you blokes and your throwaline lines. She has some important decisions to be made and the last thing she needs is someone ranting in her ear.

Oh and by the way, TABCorp, the owner of Sky, is a Victorian company.

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« 2017-Mar-14, 04:12 PM Reply #65 »
Yes super race Nemisis, Must acknowledge where I am wrong. You remember when Prince of Penzance won the Cup and the whole World jumped up an down about how slowly they ran it. This bloke only went 7 lengths slower. The best thing to say about the winner is that new trainer, without all the bells and whistles of the previous establishment has improved it out of sight. And let me say I am very happy for yours and their success. But from a form point of view have a look at the opposition. The runner ups best win is a benchmark 90.How about some of the others ? Puccini .Has won the best races of anything in the Race. Alas a light of other days and took 54 starts for them to test him as two miler and realize he isn't. De Little Engine-perfectly named. Honey Steel's Gold , previous win the Marong Cup. Mujadale-rising 10. Exalted Lightning- Career highlight Benchmark 64 at Strathalbyn and still beat nearly half the field home. Kawabata- I had a nice win on him in a benchmark 70 the other day at the Bool, should have been reserved for another one. Mighty Maher- finished 8 lengths behind Kawabata in the same race. Career highlight is a combined Gawler maiden/Class 1 success. Chestnut Charlie-best win in a Benchmark 82, never won beyond 2040. Anurada-stylish Benchmark 60 win some runs ago. Tunes-getting giddy going around. Surprised they missed the Tasmanian Cups with him, hasn't missed anything else. And  what a about Like A Carousel . Has managed 2 career wins, the last of them back in 2014. And lastly Lord Von Percy, another import to our shores who is unsurprisingly a maiden in this Continent . Last win 2014. As you can see it was a race chockfull of class. Nemisis mark down May 20 in your Calendar. That is the day they run another of these "Jumpers Flats". It goes under the name these days of the Andrew Ramsden Stakes. Can't wait.
Why didn't you put your rather lengthy form analysis on the available thread, before the race Dean.

 Didn't see anyone suggesting the race had a lot of class.
Just on your Mel. cup comparison, it did rain overnight in Adelaide so good 4 versus good 3.

I thought the winner's run was very good, I backed him and got a thrill.
 
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« 2017-Mar-15, 06:36 AM Reply #66 »
SKY pushed their false marketing hype down our throats about the amazing coverage that SKY 528 would bring to Thoroughbred racing.

Read their their hype below.

"Sky Thoroughbred Central (Channel 528) is the superior thoroughbred racing channel, showcasing the best thoroughbred racing action from Australia and around the world with in-depth analysis, mounting yard and experts comments".

"Showcasing the thoroughbred racing action".

Please give me a break. Where were the "in-depth analysis, mounting yard and experts comments" from the Adelaide Cup meeting yesterday?

So a lowly Monday Queanbeyan meeting and a "slow coach" meeting from Eagle Farm's ploughed paddock both received mounting yard comments and post race interviews whilst the main meeting in Australia yesterday received all but zip from the ever urging SKY channel mob.

Why couldn't either Queanbeyan or Eagle Farm been pushed to SKY 526 and given Morphettville the coverage they deserved?

The argument regarding the class of the Adelaide Cup didn't deserve a better coverage is nonsense.

You only have to look at the so called majors on the Eastern seaboard to realise that not ever year will the races have Champions or future Champion contesting. Some years are classics and some years are far from it. Need I remind everyone that last weeks Newmarket was a very average field to say the least. Next year, who knows it could be the best for the last 20 years.

I rest my case regarding SKY as they have only one agenda and that is TAB turnover that includes constant urging from their so called experts.

 :rant:
Agree 100% Mortdale.

Sky central know four meetings wont work because it simply can't.
The fact they do it, says it all.

Needs to be on record as well that the main race of the day, their biggest income earner had not been completed before they switched to that mighty benchmark 55. 


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« 2017-Mar-23, 08:35 AM Reply #67 »
Sky were at it again with their race replays from Qld over the weekend.  From Toowoomba we were shown races 5 & 6 twice but weren't shown race 7 and then from Sunday's Sunshine Coast meeting they completely missed races 5 & 6 and skipped to race 7.  I've lost count of the number of times this sort of thing has occurred. This of course is on Pay TV not free to air, but no-one wants to take accountability still.

At least now we have access to alternative replay sites

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« 2017-Mar-23, 09:11 AM Reply #68 »
Well, glad i am sitting down, just had a call from a rep from Sky asking for more details of replay problems and apologizing for the situation over the weekend.

Went on to discuss the dogs breakfast preview for Gold Coast shown on Sat ( ie 4 races shown then break for 30 mins preview Syd race 1 show it 10 ten times then go to stewards room for protest etc ) then back to last 4 races in Bne 30 mins after scheduled preview time.

Was actually nice to hear that someone is interested in the feedback and is going to investigate and do something about it

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« 2017-Mar-23, 11:20 AM Reply #69 »
Do you guys realize that some of you are complaining because Sky had too much Qld racing, and some of you are complaining because there is too little Qld racing?

You do realize this, don't you? Tell me you acknowledge this at least   :lol:

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« 2017-Mar-23, 11:28 AM Reply #70 »
I didn't watch the races on Saturday due to work - did catch the Slipper though.

Tell me. Did they not have coverage on Channel 7 this year for the people who like the mounting yard stuff?

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« 2017-Mar-23, 12:00 PM Reply #71 »
Hi PP7, I don't think any of us wants to see any further reductions to the QLD racing coverage. However when there is a major feature meeting like the Golden Slipper race day why can't Sky on their channel 528 have it as a stand alone feature.

Remember they still have Sky 526 and 527 to show the races from around Australia.

I would expect days like the Stradbroke to also be a stand alone feature on Sky 528.

This was how Sky originally promoted their new channel 528.

"Sky Thoroughbred Central (Channel 528) is the superior thoroughbred racing channel, showcasing the best thoroughbred racing action from Australia and around the world with in-depth analysis, mounting yard and experts comments".

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« 2017-Mar-23, 12:40 PM Reply #72 »
Who actually watches this mounting yard drivel. How often do you hear. "Gee that one looks like crap and would be better suited in a Manangatang maiden on its current form " Never. It is just patronizing garbage.

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« 2017-Mar-23, 12:59 PM Reply #73 »
Do you guys realize that some of you are complaining because Sky had too much Qld racing, and some of you are complaining because there is too little Qld racing?

You do realize this, don't you? Tell me you acknowledge this at least    :lol:

Pp7 i very clearly referenced the replays, when there are 7 races scheduled for a meeting surely it's not too much to ask to have them show all 7 races is it not? Surely you don't need to have the live coverage difference to replays pointed out do you?

 I am complaining because the replays weren't an accurate reflection of the race meetings held- yet again!

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« 2017-Mar-23, 03:11 PM Reply #74 »
Who actually watches this mounting yard drivel. How often do you hear. "Gee that one looks like crap and would be better suited in a Manangatang maiden on its current form " Never. It is just patronizing garbage.
Well I watch it .
The key word is watch, not listen.

I happen to think the way a horse presents is vital and many times have piled some more onto a very fit looking horse.

I'm not alone ......am I ?


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