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Offline topgun

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O.P. « 2021-Mar-22, 10:12 PM »
Hello to all,

I would like to ask where can I get very reliable speedmaps and ratings from? I love Australian racing, live in America.

Offline Dave

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« 2021-Mar-23, 03:16 PM Reply #1 »
https://www.racingnsw.com.au/wp-content/uploads/speedmaps/25032021KENS.pdf

That will give you speed maps for Kensington/Randwick on Thursday

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Calendar_Meetings.aspx
will give you the form and acceptances for NSW together with speed maps/Stewards reports etc

as for ratings there is a myriad of places you can go, some are free and some charge....how much you are willing to pay will probably dictate how good the ratings are

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2021-Mar-23, 06:52 PM Reply #2 »
Thatís the key Dave, how good are the ratings🤔

What free ones do you suggest and can I adjust any of the inputs myself?

Offline Maximus

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« 2021-Mar-23, 07:24 PM Reply #3 »
https://www.racingnsw.com.au/wp-content/uploads/speedmaps/25032021KENS.pdf

That will give you speed maps for Kensington/Randwick on Thursday

http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Calendar_Meetings.aspx
will give you the form and acceptances for NSW together with speed maps/Stewards reports etc

as for ratings there is a myriad of places you can go, some are free and some charge....how much you are willing to pay will probably dictate how good the ratings are

These are good pointers from Dave, topgun. In regard to ratings, Racing NSW also provides a benchmark rating for each horse - note that this is a rating of the horse rather than a rating of each individual run.

Your own Daily Racing Form has an online international edition that provides speed ratings, for memory the methodology centres around track records so is a bit hit and miss though.


Offline Dave

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« 2021-Mar-24, 04:08 PM Reply #4 »
wily I never use ratings or speed maps, I think speed maps mislead you more than not having a speed map, you can get a dozen speed maps on most races and they will all be different....unless there is an obvious leader like say Vo Rogue....then who needs a speed map anyway?
I leave it to the jockey to know what they are doing, I never try to pick a winner, I just look for overs, if a horse "maps" badly and it has a good jockey to me that is "Gold" it means I will get huge overs.......if a horse maps bady and is 3/4 wide facing the breeze etc(according to the map) and I have a Bowman/McDonald/McEvoy/Oliver etc riding it, I know the Map is BS........they are not stupid, I trust that they will change the map, that's what makes them great Jockey's....I have backed Oliver on 200/1 winners and multiple 50/1 winners.....just a few weeks ago I backed Runaway with Oliver up, it mapped wide outside the lead, Oliver went straight back to last, he won and was 50/1..........Maps only serve to make horses shorter or longer than they should be on ability, I would rather back a good horse/jockey that maps badly(and is overs) than a bad horse who maps well (but is unders)
and Ratings are really just someone's opinion, there is only one opinion that I value.....not to say I do not listen to another's opinion but he/she would need to make a very strong case and I would need to have a pretty weak case before I would change my mind, it happens but the last time was in the early 90's


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