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Offline napes

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« 2020-Aug-03, 09:33 AM Reply #525 »
I don't need any support.

I'm not a politician, I don't need to be popular, just telling it how I see it. 90% of people don't care how there food is labelled. People say they care but then buy cheap imports anyway.

They should care, but they don't.

Boy, I don't blame you for deflecting from the topic to try and hide your hypocrisy.

But I do resent your arrogant condescending tone  :bye: :bye:


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« 2020-Aug-17, 04:14 PM Reply #527 »
Round 1 to PV

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts/peter-vlandys-wins-court-bid-against-abc-over-racehorse-segment/news-story/30b152b60db28ae7397c2e7cd57dbee0


Yes no doubt the taxpayers will put up the money for the egos at the ABC for appeals all the way to the High Court.

Peter V’landys wins court bid against ABC over racehorse segment

The ABC has lost a court bid to seal internal communications that could support a claim that it acted “with malice” when splicing horrifying footage of racehorses in an abattoir into an interview with Racing NSW chief Peter V’landys.

Mr V’landys, who heads up the state’s horse racing industry and regulatory body, fronted cameras for the ABC’s 7:30 program last year to speak about treatment of racehorses.

He outlined the steps his organisation had taken to stop retired thoroughbreds being sent to knackeries in NSW. The ABC, in the program, ran footage of horses being brutally butchered in a Queensland abattoir.

The racing chief alleges he was defamed and the interview was an “ambush” that denied him a chance to explain he had no jurisdiction in Queensland and abhorred the treatment depicted in the footage.

The ABC denies the story carried the damaging imputations.

Mr V’landys, on Monday, won a technical but significant victory in the defamation case when the Federal Court granted his legal team the right to review the ABC’s internal documents related to the segment.

His lawyers will likely seek the communications between ABC journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna and other staff who worked on the story.


Mr V’landys’ legal team will likely be seeking to pinpoint who decided to splice the footage of the Queensland abattoir into the interview among other editorial decisions they say contributed to injuring his reputation.

Justice Michael Wigney, on Monday, also ordered that some members of the ABC will have to provide information under oath though it’s unclear, at this stage, who will be required to give the sworn evidence.

The racing chief’s high-profile barrister, Bruce McClintock SC, was also allowed to alter the wording of Mr V’landys’ claim.

Mr V’landys will now allege that the ABC acted “with malice” when it produced the story.

“(Mr V’landys alleges) malice on behalf of the ABC and Ms Meldrum-Hanna can be inferred from the fact … they actively deceived Mr V'landys about certain matters, have edited the program in a particular way and portrayed him in a particularly bad light,” Justice Wigney said, summarising the case.

It’s understood that change will be relied upon by Mr V’landys to seek, if he can successfully establish the defamation, a higher payout because of “aggravated damages”.

The court heard, on Monday, Mr V’landys asked to be shown evidence of racehorses being mistreated during his interview.

But, according to his lawyers, the ABC refused to share what information they had obtained.

Last week the court heard Mr V’landys has not yet watched the ABC segment, but will do so at trial.

The court heard, at that time, Mr V’landys had asked for an offsider to watch it and report back and he understood it was a “10 out of 10 stitch up”.

The ABC’s lawyers said Mr V’landys was trying to play “Gogglebox: Courtroom Edition” by watching the show in the court.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts/peter-vlandys-wins-court-bid-against-abc-over-racehorse-segment/

Pretty weak response by the ABC's lawyers in that last sentence.

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« 2020-Aug-22, 08:39 AM Reply #528 »
Still very strange that V’landys has not watched the show but yet instigated legal action based on someone else watching the show for him.

I wonder what the reaction will be when he gets grilled in court regarding his feelings based on an “offsider” watching the show?

It could be like V’landys starring in his version of Googlebox.   :lol:

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« 2020-Sep-08, 08:41 PM Reply #529 »
here we go .

Wagga trainer Trevor Sutherland has been handed a three-year ban by Racing NSW stewards in relation to the death of two retired racehorses.

Stewards found Sutherland guilty of having disposed of racehorses Redfu and Rozzi on or around 8 April 2020 in the knowledge that such horses were to be destroyed on the property of registered owner Mr Donnchadh Brown.

Sutherland pleaded not guilty to the charge and had sent a letter to owners after being stood down on August 22, stating he had "unintentionally and unknowingly" broken the rules regarding to the re-homing of horses.

"Once again I stand by my long record of horse welfare, having successfully rehomed hundreds of horses in my more than 20 years as a licensed trainer," the letter read.

"I have never before been suspended or face charges and I take pride in my horses' wellbeing."

Sutherland was found guilty on a further two breaches. 

Stewards charged the trainer of having failed to report to Racing Australia by lodging the relevant death notification form that Bless You Toby was found to be deceased on July 7.

He was also charged with making a false declaration in relation to the lodgement of a stable return on July 13 that Bless You Toby was spelling at Yass.

He was disqualified for a period of six months after pleading guilty, with the penalty to be served concurrently with the three-year disqualification.

Owner Mr Brown meanwhile was given a four-year ban after pleading guilty of having disposed of racehorses Rozzi and Redfu on or around April 2020 and Hangin With Willy and Witchblade on or around July 2020, in contravention of LR114(5)(e).

Stewards took into account his guilty plea, contrition shown, co-operation with the inquiry and his clean record.

courtesy of   punters.com.au

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« 2020-Sep-09, 06:26 PM Reply #530 »


.............. unless cruelty was involved , it is hard to see an offense here ............apart from embarrassment to administrators

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« 2020-Sep-11, 10:15 AM Reply #531 »
We agree on something  :what: :shy:

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« 2020-Sep-25, 08:39 AM Reply #532 »
Racing boss chokes up over ABC ‘set-up’


 
Racing NSW boss Peter V'landys says he was unfairly treated by the ABC. Pictu NCA NewsWire / Damian Shaw

Heath Parkes-Hupton 6:20PM24 September 2020

Racing boss Peter V’landys felt the ABC set him up as the “face” of abhorrent cruelty to horses – revealed in sickening footage from a Queensland abattoir – that he had no power to prevent, a court has heard.

The Racing NSW chief executive was stunned he was not offered the same courtesy to see the footage as two “activists” also featured in 7.30’s explosive report The Final Race before being interviewed for the program.

He choked up as he recalled the flood of “vile” emails he read through after the segment aired last October, recalling how some “lowlifes” stated they hoped he would end up in an abattoir.

But he said the email that hurt most wished cancer and a slow death on his two young kids who are under 10 years old.

“The one that disturbed me the most was the one in relation to my children,” he told the Federal Court on Thursday.
 
The 58-year-old is suing the national broadcaster and journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna for aggravated damages over the program, which exposed the horrific mistreatment of retired thoroughbreds at the Meramist abattoir in Caboolture.

He claims to have suffered significant reputational and personal hurt after being deliberately “ambushed” and painted as someone who “callously permits the wholesale slaughter” of horses when he fronted cameras for the program, completely unaware the ABC had obtained the appalling footage.

The ABC denies the defamatory imputations as claimed, with its barrister Sandy Dawson SC labelling the accusation it acted with malice to tarnish the racing industry as “misconceived rubbish”.

During cross examination, Mr Dawson asked Mr V’landys if he believed the program was going to be a “fluff piece” on equine welfare, adding the ABC had informed him they were analysing the industry’s data and practices.
 
Peter V‘landys appearing on the ABC program on October 17, 2019.

Earlier, Mr V’landys said he felt the broadcaster “deceived and conned” him by withholding the footage before his sit-down with Ms Meldrum-Hanna two days before the show went to air.

That robbed him of the opportunity to voice his utter disgust and made his answers, which would have been different, look “flippant” as viewers assumed he was aware of the cruelty, he said.


In his interview, he claimed to have no knowledge of gallopers from NSW being slaughtered in abattoirs or knackeries, but the ABC had found 14 purported examples.

“I felt I was denied the courtesy and procedural fairness that the other participants on the show had,” he said.

“I didn’t want to be the person associated with the Meramist footage because it has nothing to do with me.”
 
A disturbing scene from the ABC’s 7.30 report.
On Thursday, former Queensland premier Peter Beattie described Mr V’landys, who he hand-picked to replace him as chairman of the Australian Rugby League Commission, as a man of “integrity and honesty”.

Mr Beattie said The Final Race came at a “bad time” for his successor, who was yet to win over the full commission.

“To be frank, I had gone out on a limb to support him and I was concerned that if this was true (the allegations in the report), it would damage his reputation among the other commissioners,” he said.

“It’s the most upset I’ve seen him - he was very upset. He felt his reputation had been damaged and he wanted everyone to know the truth.”

 
Former Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Beattie said Mr V’landys was a man of ‘integrity and honesty’.

After the program aired, viewers began sending a “firestorm” of abuse to Racing NSW and its boss.

“I knew straight way that I was being set up as the person being responsible for this cruelty to horses … that couldn’t be farther from the truth,” he said.

“I think they were trying to portray that I was aware of Meramist, that I allowed Meramist to happen.”

He said Racing NSW had no control over retired thoroughbreds once they had been rehomed or sold interstate.

Mr V’landys also said Racing NSW would have been able to provide crucial information about the 14 horses from NSW identified as being slaughtered at Meramist if the ABC had asked before the program went to air.
 
Mr V’landys said he had lost sleep over the footage.

One of them was still alive, while the majority of the horses had predominantly raced and domiciled in other states and were no longer under the body’s jurisdiction.

Two of them had been sent to an abattoir by a trainer who had lied to Racing NSW about the animals’ status and his licence was revoked.

He said Racing NSW was the only body in Australia that had outlawed horses being sent to abattoirs or knackeries if they had been predominantly domiciled in the state.

“What was portrayed on that show, the majority had not breached the rules,” he said.

Mr Dawson put to Mr V’landys it was an “exaggeration” Racing NSW could account for every horse and noted the racing boss’ evidence in court today that investigations were “still ongoing” into two of the horses purported on the program to have been killed at Meramist.

“Your point is once the horse has been rehomed and then sold to another person … the horse is well outside the jurisdiction of Racing NSW … and there’s nothing you can do to stop it going to a knackery,” Mr Dawson said.

The hearing continues.
ENDS

IMO his reputation is intact ......he still got the Chair of the ARL if that's all there is to it ...hurt feelings but no discernible reputation damage although some nasty vicious emails the authors of which which aren't defendants in the defamation...pity that they deserve to be outed.
Still who would have thought Geoffrey would have got those millions from his case.

Giddy Up  :beer:





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« 2020-Sep-30, 09:28 AM Reply #533 »
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-24/racing-nsw-boss-peter-vlandys-defamation-case-against-abc/12699850

The case has been adjourned to 14 October .......no mention in the reporting as far as I know of Hardwicke which couldn't keep stock which had to be disposed of .

Giddy UP :beer:

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« 2020-Oct-15, 07:45 PM Reply #534 »
Racing supremo hits back
DERRICK KRUSCHE
 
A FIRED-UP Peter V’landys has accused a racehorse activist who provided the ABC with abattoir footage of calling coronavirus a “saviour” because it kills humans, a court has been told.

The boss of Racing NSW (inset) is suing the public broadcaster for defamation over a TV story aired on 7.30 last year, which alleged former racehorses were being carted off to slaughterhouses in NSW and Queensland.

Mr V’landys’ lawyers argued the ABC made a decision not to show their client undercover videos of the facilities before his sit-down interview – in which he said he had no knowledge of the practice taking place in NSW – was intercut with the graphic footage.

The Federal Court was told yesterday some of the footage aired on the ABC was obtained by an organisation run by Elio Celotto, who is the campaign director of the Coalition for the Protection of Racehorses. During heated questioning by the ABC’s barrister Sandy Dawson, SC, Mr V’landys told the court he gave Mr Celotto no “credence” and questioned why he hadn’t contacted authorities about the alleged animal welfare offences.

The hearing continues.

ENDS

Giddy Up :beer:


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« 2020-Oct-16, 05:41 AM Reply #535 »
Racing supremo hits back


The Federal Court was told yesterday some of the footage aired on the ABC was obtained by an organisation run by Elio Celotto, who is the campaign director of the Coalition for the Protection of Racehorses. During heated questioning by the ABC’s barrister Sandy Dawson, SC, Mr V’landys told the court he gave Mr Celotto no “credence” and questioned why he hadn’t contacted authorities about the alleged animal welfare offences.

The hearing continues.

ENDS

Giddy Up :beer:


This is the crux of the argument about the ABC's motives.

If you are genuinely concerned about animal welfare, and you are in possession of evidence that animal cruelty is happening, then you are obliged to present that evidence to authorities ASAP.

If you do not present that evidence in a timely manner, then more animals suffer as a result of your delay in sharing of information.

In the ABC's case, it has been obvious from the outset that the team on this assignment took a conscious decision to withhold evidence of animal cruelty just so they could showcase their story on the week before the Everest.

That is probably not directly associated with Mr V'Landys defamation case, but it is true in the moral sense.

The ABC should be ashamed of themselves. An apology to the public and the reporter undergoing counselling by people who genuinely love horses (not the political parasites pretending to be concerned) should be the outcome.

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« 2020-Oct-16, 09:24 AM Reply #536 »
This is the crux of the argument about the ABC's motives.

If you are genuinely concerned about animal welfare, and you are in possession of evidence that animal cruelty is happening, then you are obliged to present that evidence to authorities ASAP.

If you do not present that evidence in a timely manner, then more animals suffer as a result of your delay in sharing of information.

In the ABC's case, it has been obvious from the outset that the team on this assignment took a conscious decision to withhold evidence of animal cruelty just so they could showcase their story on the week before the Everest.

That is probably not directly associated with Mr V'Landys defamation case, but it is true in the moral sense.

The ABC should be ashamed of themselves. An apology to the public and the reporter undergoing counselling by people who genuinely love horses (not the political parasites pretending to be concerned) should be the outcome.

PP it was exactly the same with the greyhounds, if they truly cared - why withhold the evidence?  :whistle:

They really are just about the headlines and made a moral choice to ignore the plight of those they were supposedly 'saving' 

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« 2020-Oct-16, 01:46 PM Reply #537 »
PP it was exactly the same with the greyhounds, if they truly cared - why withhold the evidence?  :whistle:

They really are just about the headlines and made a moral choice to ignore the plight of those they were supposedly 'saving'

ABC has been white-anted by some real left wing political ratbags - and ratbags who wouldn't know which end is the head and which end is the arse on a horse or dog. Latte sippers whose idea of a dog is a Labradoodle or one of those woke breeds. Get a real dog   :lol:

I used to be against selling the ABC but their disgraceful performance in trying to get rid of Greyhound and Horse racing has changed my mind.

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« 2021-Apr-08, 12:26 PM Reply #539 »
There's no sign of a decision in the defamation case brought by Peter V'Landys against  the ABC over the 4Corners program .....although the case was concluded in the middle of October last year when Justice Michael Wigney reserved his decision ...you wonder why the learned judge hasn't made his decision public maybe he is overburdened with other pressing contentious legal cases but coming up 6 months is stretching it.

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2021-Apr-08, 03:38 PM Reply #540 »
It's truly extraordinary that there is no decision after all this time.....I check in regularly.
P V'Landy's certainly doesn't look that he has had his reputation damaged.

He made a racing announcement recently but when it came to question time, the only questions he took, that I heard, were from familiar voices all employed by him in some way.....looked to be a script  :what:
He could do what real leaders do and take unscripted questions until there are no more questions......would have been good practice for him when the ABC came knocking.

Wonder how his court case versus the RSL property on Razorback is going?
Probably will need a high country property after the Manning River flooded the RNSW property on Oxley Island near Taree.
You would like to think there would be some one in the Sydney racing press would inquire and report about the horses on the flooded property.

A little line on twitter  from RNSW "horses ok" hardly cuts it.......no scrutiny at all.....how pathetic!

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« 2021-Apr-08, 06:40 PM Reply #541 »
Interesting that the judge hearing this case awarded Geoffrey Rush substantial damages for his defamation case...... from memory that decision was delivered fairly promptly  and withstood appeal ....what odds is V'landys if there was a market on the outcome ...personally I doubt he has been damaged at all although he did admit to hurt feelings.

Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2021-Apr-15, 10:22 AM Reply #542 »
Just a complete embarrassment to itself, at times horse racing.
Brings out Happy Clapper at Randwick and declares the horse an "ambassador" for RNSW re-homing projects.......a product of the Oxley Island farm.
Be better if someone reported how badly the farm was damaged by the huge floods.....from what I know there were around 50 horses there.
Most people would just expect that a racehorse that wins in excess of $7 million would be entitled to a decent home with decent care after racing.
Go find a 20 start maiden.....call him the "ambassador"

Now we find out that the "feel good" story running last week about about the popular NSW trainer really caring about her horses was just a smokescreen for a serious welfare inquiry by RNSW Stewards.
https://letsgohorseracing.com.au/

Remember when we had journalists that would write without 'fear or favour'?.......how sad it is!

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« 2021-Apr-18, 09:44 AM Reply #543 »

Debbie has been done for criticising RacingNSW and CEO PVL she has previous form which brought the suspended penalty of $5K into play

https://www.racingnsw.com.au/wp-content/uploads/Reasons-for-Decisions-D-Prest.pdf


Orders In the Appeal of Mrs Deborah Prest, the following Orders are made by the Panel:
1.The appeal on conviction is dismissed with respect to each of Charge 1 and Charge 2 and the conviction with respect to each of Charge 1 and Charge 2 is confirmed.
2.Appeal against severity of penalty allowed.
3.Mrs Prest's trainers license is suspended for a period of 1 month, with such suspension to commence on Friday 25 December 2020 and to expire on Monday 25 January 2021
4.A fine in the sum of $7,500 is imposed.
5.Appeal deposit to be forfeited.

Giddy Up :beer:



Didn't like the ban on trainers being able to use their cars to train horses. Or the use of "joggers".

Ironic that the ABC, on the one hand cries "cruelty to horses" when it suits them.

Then on the other implicitly approves of cruelty to horses by their support for trainers advocating the use of cars to train horses FFS.

Remind me. How long did the ABC hang on to that information about cruelty to horses just so they could run their report on the Monday before The Everest?

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